Re: BOI Chapter 8 vs Schmidhuber

2011-10-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Oct 2011, at 18:30, John Clark (FOR list) wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: If you are a machine, you are duplicable (in principle). Yes. And if pure randomness is important to the feeling of self then you are not a machine and can not be duplicated

Re: BOI Chapter 8 vs Schmidhuber

2011-10-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Oct 2011, at 01:40, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 01:42:19PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Russell, On 02 Oct 2011, at 11:37, Russell Standish wrote: In David Deutsch's Beginning of Infinity chapter 8, he criticises Schmidhuber's Great Programmer idea by saying

Re: BOI Chapter 8 vs Schmidhuber

2011-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Russell, On 02 Oct 2011, at 11:37, Russell Standish wrote: In David Deutsch's Beginning of Infinity chapter 8, he criticises Schmidhuber's Great Programmer idea by saying that it is giving up on explanation in science, Actually I did address this point on the FOR list years ago. Somehow,

Re: BOI Chapter 8 vs Schmidhuber

2011-10-02 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 01:42:19PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Russell, On 02 Oct 2011, at 11:37, Russell Standish wrote: In David Deutsch's Beginning of Infinity chapter 8, he criticises Schmidhuber's Great Programmer idea by saying that it is giving up on explanation in science,