Re: Braindora

2013-10-22 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Quote - Environment Problem an amusing story about a demon giving a man an advance glimpse of Hell, was collected in Space 1, an anthology edited by Richard Davis. Wireheading is of course a term taken from Larry Niven's known

Re: Braindora

2013-10-21 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:08 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 10/20/2013 3:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: If this was possible, wouldn't you choose it? If not, why not? I have a recurring similar discussion with a friend: suppose you could be put in a capsule on life support and given

Re: Braindora

2013-10-21 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: This is explored in (amongst other places) the final chapter of A history of the world in 10 1/2 chapters. (The converse is explored in a short story by Michael Moorcock about someone who goes to Hell and finds it quite pleasant

Re: Braindora

2013-10-21 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:08:14 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 10/20/2013 3:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: If this was possible, wouldn't you choose it? If not, why not? I have a recurring similar discussion with a

Re: Braindora

2013-10-21 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, October 21, 2013 5:52:34 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:08:14 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 10/20/2013 3:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: If this was

Re: Braindora

2013-10-21 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, October 21, 2013 5:34:09 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:08 AM, meekerdb meek...@verizon.netjavascript: wrote: On 10/20/2013 3:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: If this was possible, wouldn't you choose it? If not, why not? I have a recurring similar

Re: Braindora

2013-10-21 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:11:22 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: Craig: I don't think that is actually possible. The intellect can conceive of monotonous bliss, but that does not mean that is the way that bliss could work. Exactly. That's what I am talking about with Telmo, below. Like the

Re: Braindora

2013-10-21 Thread meekerdb
On 10/21/2013 2:34 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:08 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 10/20/2013 3:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: If this was possible, wouldn't you choose it? If not, why not? I have a recurring similar discussion with a friend: suppose you could be

Re: Braindora

2013-10-21 Thread LizR
Quote - Environment Problem an amusing story about a demon giving a man an advance glimpse of Hell, was collected in Space 1, an anthology edited by Richard Davis. Wireheading is of course a term taken from Larry Niven's known space stories, Gil Hamilton and the ARM and so on. On 21 October

Re: Braindora

2013-10-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: Another way of approaching human emulation. Step 1: Manufacture an inexpensive biofeedback monitor that you plug into your internet enabled device. Step 2: Braindora reads up your personal data and compares it

Re: Braindora

2013-10-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:53:41 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Another way of approaching human emulation. Step 1: Manufacture an inexpensive biofeedback monitor that you plug into your

Re: Braindora

2013-10-20 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:08:14 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 10/20/2013 3:53 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: If this was possible, wouldn't you choose it? If not, why not? I have a recurring similar discussion with a friend: suppose you could be put in a capsule on life support and given a

Re: Braindora

2013-10-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
Craig: I don't think that is actually possible. The intellect can conceive of monotonous bliss, but that does not mean that is the way that bliss could work. A bliss that you cannot escape from is ultimately a prison. Our understanding of sensation points to relation of contrasts, not to