Le 12-juin-07, à 21:33, Tom Caylor a écrit :
> Is not "Dt?" equal to "the search for truth"? "Dt?" could *hopefully* be *part* of "the search for truth". Unsound machines can be consistent yet false (in the usual arithmetical sense). > But the weakness of > simple consistency is the unanswered question, "What is truth?" Yes. > Truth > is not found simply through consistency when we reject the truth that > is all around. You are right. > >>> Comp seems like a lot of work. >> >> Yes indeed. Two times more work than materialist are used to think. We >> have to isolate a "theory of mind" AND then, it remains to test the >> physical laws forced by that theory of mind, as the UDA and the >> arithmetical UDA justifies (or should justify). >> >> But the scientific attitude always asks for "lot of works",as I just >> said above. >> > > Perhaps you should use a different word than "scientific" for your > *good* "attitude" of open-mindedness, modesty and humility, searching > for truth, since the word "scientific" tends to be still connected > with the pre-Godelian reductionism. Or post-platonian reductionism. I think I use the term "scientist" in the usual sense already well described by Plato and later by Descartes (and many other in the east). That science leads to pseudo-science is in the nature of science. (like standing up leds to fall). I think we should'nt change the terms when other misuse them. Science = doubt, and faith. pseudo-science = authoritative argument (of any kind). > I would not put up a dichotomy > between this attitude and a belief in God. Ok with a belief in God? > But perhaps your use of > the word "scientific" is based on your conviction to use the word as > you think it "should" (assuming comp? ;) be used, rather like your use > of the word "theology". > Actually I'm starting to think that you > really aren't that far off in your use of the word "theology" for the > search for truth. We can come back on this, but my Saturday students arrive, ... see you asap, .... Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
