:) Ok.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi Telmo Menezes > > The Schrodinger wave equation (SWE) uses a "quantum wave function" > psi(r,t), which is the > mathematical probability that a quantum particle will be at certain > location r at time t. > > Solution of the Schrodinger equation for the two slit experiment will > give you an interference pattern at the photographic plate even though > the quantum wave function psi is just a mathematical expression. > > Psi only converts to a particle when psi arrives at the photographic plate. > > So psi is not physical, it is a mathematical solution to the particular > SWE. > The only physical part of the experiment is at the end when the wave hits > the photographic > plate. > > > > [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] > 1/13/2013 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Telmo Menezes > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-01-12, 09:45:51 > Subject: Re: Quntum waves are probability (mathemaqtical) waves,not > physical waves > > > Hi Roger, > > > Sure, neither do I. > But if you preform the double slit experience you will see physical > wave-like patters of interference. If it quacks like a duck... > I'm not a materialist and I have no problem with the idea of the physical > world being a dream. But I also believe that all experiences are equally > real, including dreams. Including the literal dreams we have when we sleep. > So I believe in the physical world without being a materialist. > > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > > Hi Telmo Menezes > > > I don't pretend to be a physicist, but I do know that > quantum waves are probability functions. ?here are > the radius and time t in the Schroedinger equation, > so there must be some correpondence to the physical world, > but nothing physical is waving. > > So suppose we have a physical box. ?he probability > waves have to conform to the dimensions of the box, but > they are ghost-like waves of probability. > > > > [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] > 1/12/2013 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Telmo Menezes > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-01-12, 07:01:01 > Subject: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory > > > Hi Roger, > > > How can you have a wave without some notion of spatial/temporal dimensions? > > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Roger Clough ?rote: > > Hi everything-list, > > I don't believe that Descartes would accept the MWI. > Here's why: > > I think that the ManyWorldsInterpretation of QM is incorrect, > due to the mistaken notion (IMHO) that quantum waves > are physical waves, so that everything is physical and materialistic. > > This seems to deny "quantum weirdness" observed > in the two-slit experiment. Seemingly if both the wave > and the photon are physical, there should be nothing weird > happening. > > My own view is that the weirdness arises because the > waves and the photons are residents of two completely > different but interpenetrating worlds, where: > > 1) the photon is a resident of the physical world, > where by physical I mean (along with Descartes) > "extended in space", > > 2) the quantum wave in nonphysical, being a resident of > the nonphysical world (the world of mind), which has no > extension in space. > > Under these conditions, there is no need > to create an additional physical world, since each > can exist as aspects of the the same world, > one moving in spactime and being physical, the other, like > mind, moving simulataneously in the nonphysical world > beyond spacetime. > > [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] > 1/12/2013 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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