On 11 Mar 2011, at 03:39, Stephen Paul King wrote:
From: Bruno Marchal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:48 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movie cannot think
Dear Stephen,
On 10 Mar 2011, at 16:27, Stephen Paul King wrote:
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From: Bruno
think
On 11 Mar 2011, at 03:39, Stephen Paul King wrote:
From: Bruno Marchal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:48 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movie cannot think
Dear Stephen,
On 10 Mar 2011, at 16:27, Stephen Paul King wrote:
-Original Message
On 10 Mar 2011, at 16:15, Stephen Paul King wrote:
From: Andrew Soltau
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:47 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movie cannot think
On 09/03/11 16:53, Brent Meeker wrote:
The appearance of change is already explained by the fact
On 10/03/11 14:10, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Mar 2011, at 13:47, Andrew Soltau wrote:
All the moments exist, and as Deutsch points out, as you summarise,
'The appearance of change is already explained by the fact that there
are different frames that have an implicit sequence and in which
On 11 Mar 2011, at 13:07, Andrew Soltau wrote:
On 10/03/11 14:10, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Mar 2011, at 13:47, Andrew Soltau wrote:
All the moments exist, and as Deutsch points out, as you
summarise, 'The appearance of change is already explained by the
fact that there are different
On Mar 10, 2:16 am, stephenk stephe...@charter.net wrote:
On Mar 9, 11:33 am, 1Z peterdjo...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Mar 9, 1:24 pm, Andrew Soltau andrewsol...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/03/11 16:14, Brent Meeker wrote: On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew
Soltau wrote:
What I am driving at
On 09/03/11 16:53, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 3/9/2011 5:24 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
On 08/03/11 16:14, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email
Comp. Granted that all possible states exist, what changes the
On 10 Mar 2011, at 13:47, Andrew Soltau wrote:
All the moments exist, and as Deutsch points out, as you summarise,
'The appearance of change is already explained by the fact that
there are different frames that have an implicit sequence and in
which the observers state is different', but
From: Andrew Soltau
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:47 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movie cannot think
On 09/03/11 16:53, Brent Meeker wrote:
The appearance of change is already explained by the fact that there are
different frames that have an implicit sequence
-Original Message-
From: Bruno Marchal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:10 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movie cannot think
On 10 Mar 2011, at 13:47, Andrew Soltau wrote:
All the moments exist, and as Deutsch points out, as you summarise,
'The appearance
On 3/10/2011 7:15 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
*From:* Andrew Soltau mailto:andrewsol...@gmail.com
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*Subject:* Re: Movie cannot think
On 09/03/11 16:53, Brent Meeker wrote
From: Bruno Marchal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:48 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movie cannot think
Dear Stephen,
On 10 Mar 2011, at 16:27, Stephen Paul King wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Bruno Marchal
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:10 AM
From: Brent Meeker
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:39 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movie cannot think
On 3/10/2011 7:15 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
From: Andrew Soltau
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:47 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re
On 3/10/2011 6:47 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
*From:* Brent Meeker mailto:meeke...@dslextreme.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:39 PM
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mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Movie cannot think
On 3/10/2011 7:15 AM, Stephen Paul King
On 08/03/11 16:14, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email Comp.
Granted that all possible states exist, what changes the point of the
present moment from one to another. My referring to 'the thinker' was
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.comwrote:
On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email Comp.
Granted that all possible states exist, what changes the point of the
present moment from one to another.
On Mar 9, 1:24 pm, Andrew Soltau andrewsol...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/03/11 16:14, Brent Meeker wrote: On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau
wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email Comp.
Granted that all possible states exist, what changes the point of the
On Mar 9, 3:06 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.comwrote:
On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email Comp.
Granted that all possible states exist,
On 3/9/2011 5:24 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
On 08/03/11 16:14, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email Comp.
Granted that all possible states exist, what changes the point of
the present moment from one to
On 09 Mar 2011, at 16:06, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Brent Meeker
meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email Comp.
Granted that all possible states exist, what changes
On 3/9/2011 9:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I can see why in a movie they do not, as there is no mathematical
relation between the frames.
OK. Nice.
But they do have a relation via the thing that was filmed.
Brent
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On 09 Mar 2011, at 20:51, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 3/9/2011 9:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I can see why in a movie they do not, as there is no mathematical
relation between the frames.
OK. Nice.
But they do have a relation via the thing that was filmed.
The point consists in showing
On Mar 9, 11:33 am, 1Z peterdjo...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Mar 9, 1:24 pm, Andrew Soltau andrewsol...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/03/11 16:14, Brent Meeker wrote: On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau
wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email Comp.
Granted that all
On 06/03/11 19:45, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Mar 2011, at 14:18, Andrew Soltau wrote:
On 07/02/11 15:22, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I have debunked more than once on this list the idea that a movie
can think. (It is an error akin to the confusion between a number
and a gödel number of a number,
On 3/8/2011 3:14 AM, Andrew Soltau wrote:
What I am driving at here is the same question as in the email Comp.
Granted that all possible states exist, what changes the point of the
present moment from one to another. My referring to 'the thinker' was
probably not a helpful metaphor. Given the
On 06 Mar 2011, at 14:18, Andrew Soltau wrote:
On 07/02/11 15:22, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I have debunked more than once on this list the idea that a movie
can think. (It is an error akin to the confusion between a number
and a gödel number of a number, a confusion between a description
of
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