RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-11 Thread John Ross
to 10 places. -Original Message- From: Jesse Mazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea John Ross wrote: I have not dealt with Mercury's orbit. This is one of the most

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-11 Thread Jesse Mazer
John Ross wrote: Another solution is for you to ignore my comments, or maybe me yours. This isn't just about me personally not being interested in your posts, it's about the discussion of your alternative physics ideas being *off-topic* on this list, just as much so if you came here and

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-11 Thread Ben Goertzel
-Original Message- From: Jesse Mazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea John Ross wrote: Another solution is for you to ignore my comments, or maybe me yours

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-11 Thread daddycaylor
- From: Jesse Mazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:55:43 -0400 Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea John Ross wrote:      Another solution is for you to ignore my comments, or maybe me yours.    This isn't just about me personally

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-11 Thread Jesse Mazer
Tom Caylor wrote: I am entertained by the discussion with John Ross, and can think of more entertaining questions for him (such as how about travelling by firing a neutrino gun at objects that you want to travel to? sorry I couldn't help it), but I believe it is off topic. For those who

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
why the electromagnetic chart should stop at about 4 or 5 mev? -Original Message- From: Russell Standish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:39 PM To: Stephen Paul King Cc: everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 09:02

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
07, 2005 4:30 PM To: John Ross; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea This means that beta decay proves your model wrong. - Original Message - From: John Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Stephen Paul King' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
To: everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea As I understand it a photon is a luxon as is a gluon and a neutrino is a tardyon. Hal Ruhl At 04:49 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote: I think the beta decay model is wrong where it predicts neutrinos are basically different from photons

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Hal Ruhl
: Hal Ruhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:50 PM To: everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea As I understand it a photon is a luxon as is a gluon and a neutrino is a tardyon. Hal Ruhl At 04:49 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote: I think the beta decay model

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Saibal Mitra
, 2005 10:49 PM Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea I think the beta decay model is wrong where it predicts neutrinos are basically different from photons. I understand neutrinos travel at the speed of light. Only photons travel at the speed of light. -Original Message- From: Saibal Mitra

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:11:04AM -0700, John Ross wrote: * Only photons travel at the speed of light. (Except my tronnies that usually go faster than the speed of light.) Who says? Any massless particle will travel at the speed of light. -- *PS: A number of people ask me about the

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Message- From: Jesse Mazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea John Ross: Thanks for the response. Yes my theory involves a lot of math. Have you read my patent application

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
Name one. -Original Message- From: Saibal Mitra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:27 PM To: John Ross; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea There are a lot of experiments that have detected neutrinos and verified their properties (which

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
of neutrinos is in the range of 300 mev! -Original Message- From: Russell Standish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:00 PM To: John Ross Cc: 'Hal Ruhl'; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea According to special relativity, anything with a positive

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread daddycaylor
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v436/n7050/full/436467a.html -Original Message- From: John Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Saibal Mitra' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:34:26 -0700 Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea Name one. -Original

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:04 PM To: John Ross Cc: 'Stephen Paul King'; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:11:04AM -0700, John Ross wrote: * Only photons travel at the speed of light. (Except my tronnies

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Stephen Paul King
@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:49 PM Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea I think the beta decay model is wrong where it predicts neutrinos are basically different from photons. I understand neutrinos travel at the speed of light. Only photons travel at the speed of light

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Saibal Mitra
I'm sure you saw something else :-) - Original Message - From: John Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Russell Standish' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Hal Ruhl' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 01:40 AM Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea I say a neutrino

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Saibal Mitra
@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 01:43 AM Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea I say any massless particle that has a charge supporting a Coulomb force must travel at the speed of light or faster because the Coulomb force travels at the speed of light and a charged massless particle

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Stephen Paul King
Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea Thanks for the response. Your reference quotes Professor Feynman in part as follows: So that is the end of that theory. 'Well,' you say, 'it was a good one, and I got rid of the mathematics for a while. Maybe I could invent a better one.' Maybe you can, because

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
John Ross wrote: To the best of my knowledge and belief, my theory successfully predicts all known experimental knowledge of physics, chemistry and optics and does so better and simpler than any other theory. I am working on a list of predictions of new things that can be proved

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v436/n7050/full/436467a.html -Original Message- From: John Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Saibal Mitra

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
I don't believe it. -Original Message- From: Stephen Paul King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:45 PM To: everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea Dear John, There is replicated evidence that neutrinos have a non-zero mass. It is very

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
'; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea Faster than light effects lead to violations of causality. There are very stringent experimental constraints against such effects. - Original Message - From: John Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Russell Standish' [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Russell Standish
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:27 PM To: John Ross; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea There are a lot of experiments that have detected neutrinos and verified their properties (which are completely different from photons). -- *PS: A number

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread John Ross
obtain its energy by capturing the entron of a high energy photon. -Original Message- From: Jesse Mazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea John Ross wrote: To the best of my

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-10 Thread Jesse Mazer
@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea John Ross wrote: To the best of my knowledge and belief, my theory successfully predicts all known experimental knowledge of physics, chemistry and optics and does so better and simpler than any other theory. I am working on a list of predictions of new

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-07 Thread John Ross
Thanks for the paper relating to detection of low energy neutrinos. However, according to my model, neutrinos are very, very high energy photons (off everybody's chart, except mine). Therefore, if my model is correct, then low energy neutrinos would merely be the photons we are familiar with and

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-07 Thread Saibal Mitra
This means that beta decay proves your model wrong. - Original Message - From: John Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Stephen Paul King' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:35 AM Subject: RE: Neutrino shield idea Thanks for the paper relating

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-07 Thread Stephen Paul King
PROTECTED] To: John Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Stephen Paul King' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea Neutrinos are fermions with spin 1/2. Photons are bosons with spin 0. This is about as chalk and cheese as you can

RE: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-07 Thread Jesse Mazer
John Ross wrote: Thanks for the paper relating to detection of low energy neutrinos. However, according to my model, neutrinos are very, very high energy photons (off everybody's chart, except mine). Therefore, if my model is correct, then low energy neutrinos would merely be the photons we

Re: Neutrino shield idea

2005-10-07 Thread Russell Standish
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Stephen Paul King' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Neutrino shield idea Neutrinos are fermions with spin 1/2. Photons are bosons with spin 0. This is about as chalk