Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Mar 2014, at 01:21, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:42:03 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 21:36, Craig Weinberg wrote: http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/consciousness-is-not-a-computation-2 Come on, the guy believe in Aristotelian

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-26 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:40:40 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Mar 2014, at 01:21, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:42:03 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 21:36, Craig Weinberg wrote:

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-26 Thread LizR
On 27 March 2014 04:00, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:40:40 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Mar 2014, at 01:21, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:42:03 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 21:36, Craig

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-26 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:35:18 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: On 27 March 2014 04:00, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:40:40 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Mar 2014, at 01:21, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, March 25, 2014

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-25 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-03-25 1:46 GMT+01:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: He suggests quantum computers can't be simulated (probably a lot more slowly) by classical computers. I thought they could? Then he's wrong, because quantum computers can't compute more than a turing machine... Quentin On 25 March 2014

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-25 Thread ghibbsa
On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:04 PM UTC, Gabriel Bodeen wrote: He gives six evidences. First, he falls for quantum pseudoscience. Second, he says that he personally failed to make AI when he tried and incorrectly implies that difficulty means impossibility. Third, he brings up the hard

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-25 Thread ghibbsa
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:56:37 AM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:04 PM UTC, Gabriel Bodeen wrote: He gives six evidences. First, he falls for quantum pseudoscience. Second, he says that he personally failed to make AI when he tried and incorrectly

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Mar 2014, at 21:36, Craig Weinberg wrote: http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/consciousness-is-not-a-computation-2 Come on, the guy believe in Aristotelian theology, clearly without knowing it, and he believes that a computer is material, etc. Then his argument is along the

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 25 Mar 2014, at 01:46, LizR wrote: He suggests quantum computers can't be simulated (probably a lot more slowly) by classical computers. I thought they could? I think he is just unclear. To be sure a classical computer *can* simulate a quantum computer, albeit very slowly. But the 1p

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-25 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, March 24, 2014 5:13:26 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: On 25 March 2014 07:36, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/consciousness-is-not-a-computation-2 He could make similar arguments claiming consciousness is not

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-25 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 26 March 2014 10:59, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 24, 2014 5:13:26 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: On 25 March 2014 07:36, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/consciousness- is-not-a-computation-2 He could

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-25 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:42:03 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Mar 2014, at 21:36, Craig Weinberg wrote: http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/consciousness-is-not-a-computation-2 Come on, the guy believe in Aristotelian theology, clearly without knowing it, and he

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-24 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 25 March 2014 07:36, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/consciousness-is-not-a-computation-2 He could make similar arguments claiming consciousness is not chemistry. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are

Re: Nova Spivack on 'Consciousness is More Fundamental Than Computation'

2014-03-24 Thread Gabriel Bodeen
He gives six evidences. First, he falls for quantum pseudoscience. Second, he says that he personally failed to make AI when he tried and incorrectly implies that difficulty means impossibility. Third, he brings up the hard problem and uses it to make an argument from ignorance. Fourth, he says