Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-11 Thread Eva
I think @Bruno is right - consciousness is not matter. It looks that consciousness is kinda abstract - certain kind of patterns of neuronal activation is what's necessary for consciousness. Without that, brain is not conscious. Maybe matter (particles) itself are indywiduated only by relations.

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-10 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 6:13:27 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > On 7 Nov 2019, at 19:13, Eva > wrote: > > > > Galen Strawson say that consciousness is matter. I don't think so. When > I am unconscious my brain does not dissapear. > > I agree. To equate consciousness (which we

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 7 Nov 2019, at 19:13, Eva wrote: > > Galen Strawson say that consciousness is matter. I don't think so. When I am > unconscious my brain does not dissapear. I agree. To equate consciousness (which we know to exist) with Matter (an unconscious construct of the mind in the mechanist

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-08 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:27:02 PM UTC-6, Eva wrote: > > A was into panpsychism 5 years ago and I read Galen Strawson's book. If I > good remeber, he was arguing that if acording to physicalism all phenomena > are material and qualia exist, qualia are material, so matter has >

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-08 Thread Eva
A was into panpsychism 5 years ago and I read Galen Strawson's book. If I good remeber, he was arguing that if acording to physicalism all phenomena are material and qualia exist, qualia are material, so matter has subiective quality. Something like this. -- You received this message because

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-07 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 12:13:46 PM UTC-6, Eva wrote: > > Galen Strawson say that consciousness is matter. I don't think so. When I > am unconscious my brain does not dissapear. Strawson says (In the NYTimes article) that it's *the ordinary everyday picture of matter* that people

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-07 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 11/7/2019 6:28 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 7:30:00 AM UTC-6, Eva wrote: Philip Goff did not say nothing substantial here. Anyway panpsychism is full of problems, most notably 'combination problem' so it is not viable position. Except (as

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-07 Thread Eva
Galen Strawson say that consciousness is matter. I don't think so. When I am unconscious my brain does not dissapear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 6 Nov 2019, at 11:30, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > Philip Goff > Philip Pullman > moderator, Nigel Warburten > > transcript of podcast > > @ > https://lithub.com/philip-goff-and-philip-pullman-talk-materialism-panpsychism-and-philosophical-zombies/ > > > > PG: You only get

Re: Panpsychism, materialism, and zombies

2019-11-07 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 7:30:00 AM UTC-6, Eva wrote: > > Philip Goff did not say nothing substantial here. > > Anyway panpsychism is full of problems, most notably 'combination problem' > so it is not viable position. > Except (as Galen Strawson, Philip Goff, Hedda Morch argue) it