Re: Planck Length

2019-02-14 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:17:57 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Feb 2019, at 10:22, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:53:01 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> As I have said, I am

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 9 Feb 2019, at 10:22, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:53:01 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> As I have said, I am language-oriented. What this means is that I say that >> science (from that

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-09 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:53:01 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > As I have said, I am language-oriented. What this means is that I say that > science (from that perspective) is a collection of domain-specific > languages -

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 10:06:45 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 1 Feb 2019, at 19:16, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 1 Feb 2019,

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-04 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 10:06:45 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Feb 2019, at 19:16, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 1 Feb 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 1,

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 1 Feb 2019, at 19:16, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 1 Feb 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:19:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 31 Jan 2019,

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-02 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:56:45 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/2/2019 11:04 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > "Experiential atoms" are sort of " just words" - like "atoms" was just > > a word to the Atomists of ancient Greece. And then a lot of people > > ignored them. Hopefully

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-02 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/2/2019 11:04 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: "Experiential atoms" are sort of " just words" - like "atoms" was just a word to the Atomists of ancient Greece. And then a lot of people ignored them. Hopefully things will go better in this round of history. - pt Democritus didn't just

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-02 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 12:48:00 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/1/2019 10:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:54:15 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> In any case, one of the "micropsychists" has a

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-02 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/1/2019 10:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:54:15 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: In any case, one of the "micropsychists"  has a new paper just out: "According to the *fusion* view ... when micro- or

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 12:58:14 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:54:15 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> In any case, one of the "micropsychists" has a new paper just out: >> >> >> "According to

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:54:15 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > In any case, one of the "micropsychists" has a new paper just out: > > > "According to the *fusion* view ... when micro- or protoconscious > entities come together in the right

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: In any case, one of the "micropsychists"  has a new paper just out: "According to the *fusion* view ... when micro- or protoconscious entities come together in the right way, they fuse or 'blend' together to form a single unified consciousness.

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Feb 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:19:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 15:40, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 1 Feb 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:19:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 15:40, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 30 Jan

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:19:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 31 Jan 2019, at 15:40, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 30 Jan 2019, at 23:14, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday,

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 31 Jan 2019, at 15:40, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 30 Jan 2019, at 23:14, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:45:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> As I try

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-31 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 30 Jan 2019, at 23:14, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:45:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >>> As I try to solve the mind-body problem in the Mechanist frame, I cannot

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 30 Jan 2019, at 23:14, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:45:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 29 Jan 2019, at 15:03, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 5:30:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 28 Jan

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:45:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 29 Jan 2019, at 15:03, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 5:30:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 28 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Jan 2019, at 15:03, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 5:30:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 28 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 25 Jan

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-29 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 5:30:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 25 Jan 2019, at 14:53, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 28 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 25 Jan 2019, at 14:53, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:27:44 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 24 Jan

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-28 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 25 Jan 2019, at 14:53, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:27:44 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:19, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 25 Jan 2019, at 14:53, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:27:44 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:19, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:14:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 23 Jan

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-27 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 1:09:05 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 7:19:05 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:54:58 PM

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-27 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 7:19:05 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:54:58 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:25:59 PM

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-27 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:54:58 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:25:59 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:06:09 AM

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:54:58 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:25:59 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:06:09 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:48:38 AM

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:25:59 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:06:09 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:48:38 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-26 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 10:14:24 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:59 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > *I shouldn't say (if will jinx me!) but I've never gotten a flu shot >> and I haven't gotten the flu in over 40 years.* > > > It's odd, no invention in human

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-26 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:06:09 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:48:38 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 10:14:24 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:59 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > *I shouldn't say (if will jinx me!) but I've never gotten a flu shot >> and I haven't gotten the flu in over 40 years.* > > > It's odd, no invention in human

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:59 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > *I shouldn't say (if will jinx me!) but I've never gotten a flu shot and > I haven't gotten the flu in over 40 years.* It's odd, no invention in human history has saved more lives than vaccines and yet from the day the first one was

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:27:44 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:19, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:14:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 23 Jan 2019, at 19:01, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2019, at 19:57, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > > My point is that in physics what might be called a halting

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:19, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:14:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 23 Jan 2019, at 19:01, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:52:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 22 Jan

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:48:38 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> My point is that in physics

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> My point is that in physics what might be called a halting condition is >> an attractor point or limit cycle. Equilibrium

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:49:12 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:14:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Jan 2019, at 19:01, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:52:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 22 Jan 2019, at 01:49, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> One of the oddest of

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2019, at 12:54, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:49:12 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 21

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Jan 2019, at 19:01, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:52:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 22 Jan 2019, at 01:49, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> One of the oddest of things is when physicists use the language of (various) >> theories of

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:49:12 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell >>> wrote: >>>

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-23 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:52:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 22 Jan 2019, at 01:49, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > One of the oddest of things is when physicists use the language of > (various) theories of physics to express what can or cannot be the case. > It's just a

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Jan 2019, at 01:49, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell > >> wrote: >> >> On Sunday, January 20,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-21 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:16:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-21 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:16:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 19 Jan 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 17,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:16:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 19 Jan 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 17 Jan 2019, at

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-20 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:16:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 19 Jan 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:22, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Jan 2019, at 11:36, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 2:36:23 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 18 Jan 2019, at 15:44, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 17 Jan

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Jan 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:22, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-19 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 2:36:23 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Jan 2019, at 15:44, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 21:02, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Jan 2019, at 15:44, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 21:02, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 1/17/2019

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-18 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:22, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM wrote: >> >> *> How does one calculate Planck length

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-18 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 17 Jan 2019, at 21:02, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/17/2019 12:22 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> *Later I'll post some

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2019, at 21:02, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 1/17/2019 12:22 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> Later I'll post some questions I have about your derivation of the Planck >> length, but for now here's a

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/17/2019 12:22 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > *Later I'll post some questions I have about your derivation of the Planck > length, but for now here's a philosophical question; Is there any > difference between

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/17/2019 12:22 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: *Later I'll post some questions I have about your derivation of the Planck length, but for now here's a philosophical question; Is there any difference between the claim that space is discrete, from the claim or conjecture that we cannot

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:22, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM > wrote: > > > How does one calculate Planck length using the fundamental constants G, h, > > and c, and having calculated it,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 2:22:29 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM wrote: >> >> *> How does one calculate Planck length using the fundamental constants >>> G, h, and c, and

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM > wrote: > > *> How does one calculate Planck length using the fundamental constants G, >> h, and c, and having calculated it, how does one show that measuring a >> length that small with photons

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-09 Thread Lawrence Crowell
This is the basic argument. The Compton wavelength or equivalently the de Broglie wavelength with v = c is equal to the Schwarzschild radius. That is how to derive the Planck length. The argument that nothing smaller exists just means the Heisenberg uncertainty principle can't isolate something

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-07 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM wrote: *> How does one calculate Planck length using the fundamental constants G, > h, and c, and having calculated it, how does one show that measuring a > length that small with photons of the same approximate wave length, would > result in a black hole? TIA, AG*

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:39:03 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/6/2019 1:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 7:53:52 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you >> make a photon with a

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 2:59:39 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > There is a related concept, the Planck Mass that also involves the 3 most > fundamental constants in nature, the speed of light the Planck constant and > the Gravitational constant. If you take the Planck energy >

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-06 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/6/2019 1:56 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 7:53:52 AM UTC, Brent wrote: To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you make a photon with a wavelength so short it can measure the Planck length it will have so much

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-06 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 7:53:52 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you > make a photon with a wavelength so short it can measure the Planck > length it will have so much mass-energy that it will fold spacetime > around it and

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-06 Thread John Clark
There is a related concept, the Planck Mass that also involves the 3 most fundamental constants in nature, the speed of light the Planck constant and the Gravitational constant. If you take the Planck energy (c^5*h/2*PI*G)^1/2 and confine it in a box one Planck length (G*h/2*PI*c^3)^1/2 on a side

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-05 Thread Brent Meeker
To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths.  If you make a photon with a wavelength so short it can measure the Planck length it will have so much mass-energy that it will fold spacetime around it and become a black hole...so you won't be able to use it to measure anything.