Re: Re: About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
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On 1/31/2013 4:46 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
What's an entity?
Any system whose canonical description can be associated with some kind of
fixed point theorem.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
IMHO more than one universe per entity is unjustified.
On 1/31/2013 8:09 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
IMHO more than one universe is unjustified.
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Subject: Re: About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Hi Roger,
I find it harder to believe in finite universes. Why the precise number,
whatever it is?
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
It's easier to believe in salvation through faith or UFOs than infinite
universes.
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Subject: About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Hi,
? I think this paper might be fodder for a nice discussion!
http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.5295
About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Francisco Jos Soler Gil, Manuel Alfonseca
(Submitted on 22 Jan 2013 (v1), last revised 23 Jan 2013 (this version, v2))
This paper analyzes two different proposals, one by Ellis and Brundrit, based
on classical relativistic cosmology, the other by Garriga and Vilenkin, based
on the DH interpretation of quantum mechanics, both of which conclude that, in
an infinite universe, planets and living beings must be repeated an infinite
number of times. We point to some possible shortcomings in the arguments of
these authors. We conclude that the idea of an infinite repetition of histories
in space cannot be considered strictly speaking a consequence of current
physics and cosmology. Such ideas should be seen rather as examples of
{\guillemotleft}ironic science{\guillemotright} in the terminology of John
Horgan.
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Re: Re: About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Hi Telmo Menezes
IMHO more than one universe is unjustified.
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Time: 2013-01-30, 12:10:08
Subject: Re: About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Hi Roger,
I find it harder to believe in finite universes. Why the precise number,
whatever it is?
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
?
It's easier to believe in salvation through faith or UFOs than infinite
universes.
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Subject: About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Hi,
?? I think this paper might be fodder for a nice discussion!
http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.5295
About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Francisco Jos? Soler Gil,?Manuel Alfonseca
(Submitted on 22 Jan 2013 (v1), last revised 23 Jan 2013 (this version, v2))
This paper analyzes two different proposals, one by Ellis and Brundrit, based
on classical relativistic cosmology, the other by Garriga and Vilenkin, based
on the DH interpretation of quantum mechanics, both of which conclude that, in
an infinite universe, planets and living beings must be repeated an infinite
number of times. We point to some possible shortcomings in the arguments of
these authors. We conclude that the idea of an infinite repetition of histories
in space cannot be considered strictly speaking a consequence of current
physics and cosmology. Such ideas should be seen rather as examples of
{\guillemotleft}ironic science{\guillemotright} in the terminology of John
Horgan.
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Stephen
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Re: Re: About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Hi Roger,
In the one universe model, where does the extra computational power of
quantum computers come from?
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
IMHO more than one universe is unjustified.
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*Subject:* Re: About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Hi Roger,
I find it harder to believe in finite universes. Why the precise number,
whatever it is?
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Hi Stephen P. King
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universes.
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Hi,
牋� I think this paper might be fodder for a nice discussion!
http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.5295
About the Infinite Repetition of Histories in Space
Francisco Jos� Soler
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,�Manuel
Alfonsecahttp://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Alfonseca_M/0/1/0/all/0/1
(Submitted on 22 Jan 2013 (v1 http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.5295v1), last
revised 23 Jan 2013 (this version, v2))
This paper analyzes two different proposals, one by Ellis and Brundrit,
based on classical relativistic cosmology, the other by Garriga and
Vilenkin, based on the DH interpretation of quantum mechanics, both of
which conclude that, in an infinite universe, planets and living beings
must be repeated an infinite number of times. We point to some possible
shortcomings in the arguments of these authors. We conclude that the idea
of an infinite repetition of histories in space cannot be considered
strictly speaking a consequence of current physics and cosmology. Such
ideas should be seen rather as examples of {\guillemotleft}ironic
science{\guillemotright} in the terminology of John Horgan.
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Stephen
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