Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-12-26 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Jason Resch There is and cannot be two identical uploaded minds unless you are me. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/26/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list

Re: Re: Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-12-26 Thread Roger Clough
content - From: Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-25, 09:37:35 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Against Mechanism Well if two people have the same mind and identity, then might they share the same soul (at least for a moment)? Jason On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Roger Clough

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2012-12-26 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Jason, I should have that if those two people can shake hands, they cannot be identical. - Have received the following content - Sender: Roger Clough Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-26, 08:27:06 Subject: Re: Re: Against Mechanism Hi Jason Resch There is and cannot

Re: Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-12-25 Thread Jason Resch
- *From:* Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com *Receiver:* everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com *Time:* 2012-12-24, 11:13:17 *Subject:* Re: Re: Against Mechanism On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.netwrote: Hi Jason Resch Since 1p has the property

Re: Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-12-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-24, 11:13:17 Subject: Re: Re: Against Mechanism On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Jason

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-12-24 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Jason Resch Since 1p has the property of perspective, and no two people can be at the same place at the same time, 3p has multiple perspectives. That is the only multiworld theory that I can believe in. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/24/2012 Forever is a long time,

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-12-24 Thread Jason Resch
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Jason Resch Since 1p has the property of perspective, and no two people can be at the same place at the same time, But could there be two places that are identical to each other which contain the same first person

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-30 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Jason Resch What does physics (and multiple world theory) have to do with emulating human thinking ? Physics is deterministic, human thought is not. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/30/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-30 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Physics is deterministic, I said it before I'll say it again, it's astonishing how many people expect to make deep philosophical discoveries while remaining totally ignorant about what science has accomplished since the year 1900,

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-30 Thread Roger Clough
Hi meekerdb I missed the thought experiment, but IMHO thought is an intentioned expression of some kind. Intentioned means that there is a living self to do the intentioning. Then one might think of thinking as a paste board on which one can paste and manipulate representations of the

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-24 Thread Roger Clough
Bruno, I think that one contention of comp is that imagination plays no role in discovery. But what is covered has to be imagined at least in part to begin with. That argues against comp fairly strongly. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/24/2012 Forever is a long time, especially

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-09 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Jason Resch My apologies if I step on toes here, I'm just relying on experience, but avoiding answering questions, together with changing the subject, seem to be the hallmarks of liberalism. It's uncanny. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/9/2012 Forever is a long time, especially

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi meekerdb The dilemma is that 1p is subjective and hence solipsistic, but when spoken about it is objective (3p, 2p; he, or you). And as far as dualisms go, the only important one is subjective/objective. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/5/2012 Forever is a long time, especially

Re: Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King Good. That is another way to define objective (public). Whereas 1p is personal and always private. If 1p is communicated, it becomes 3p. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/5/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the