Re: Re: Lee Smolin and Darwin's Uncommon Success

2013-02-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King 


Anything that has a purpose is teleological. 



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Hi,

 ISTM that purpose is a 1p, so to ask the question in a 3p sense is 
to make it meaningless.



On 2/5/2013 6:23 AM, Russell Standish wrote:
> Only in the same sense that evolution is teleological, ie not really.
>
> Cheers
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> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 06:59:01PM +1100, Kim Jones wrote:
>> So does this explain the PURPOSE of the universe or merely a dominant 
>> FUNCTION? The blind exercise of function doesn't seem to me to include the 
>> global concept of purpose. The use of this word is about my only gripe with 
>> it. I could be wrong.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> K
>>
>>


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Re: Re: Lee Smolin and Darwin's Uncommon Success

2013-02-05 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Kim Jones 

Life seems to be the only thing in the universe that has purpose--
which is, or course, to create more life.


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So does this explain the PURPOSE of the universe or merely a dominant FUNCTION? 
The blind exercise of function doesn't seem to me to include the global concept 
of purpose. The use of this word is about my only gripe with it. I could be 
wrong.

Cheers,

K




On 05/02/2013, at 6:47 PM, Russell Standish  wrote:

> By contrast, Smolin's idea is taken very seriously by this list. For
> example, it is mentioned not once, but twice in my book (page 49 and
> 102).
> 
> Cheers
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> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 06:16:59PM +1100, Kim Jones wrote:
>> http://io9.com/5981472/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-universe-here-is-one-possible-answer
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>> 
>> OK - so rip into it and say why it's all nonsense.
>> 
>> 
>> Kim Jones
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