Re: Re: Monads and Sheldrake

2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
Hi meekerdb 

If there is empirical evidence for the truth of those, I'll accept them.
Sheldrake's work is totally empirical.

[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
1/4/2013 
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
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Don't be so narrow-minded. You must also incorporate Orgone, Feng Shui, Qi, 
ectoplasma, 
the astral plane, and NDE's. Nevermind those piddling rational, mechanistic, 
material 
problems like global warming, overpopulation, lack of water, depletion of oil...

Brent
There are those who claim that magic is like the tide; that it
swells and fades over the surface of the earth, collecting in
concentrated pools here and there, almost disappearing from other
spots, leaving them parched for wonder. There are also those who
believe that if you stick your fingers up your nose and blow, it
will increase your intelligence.
 -- The Teachings of Ebenezum, Volume VII

On 1/3/2013 10:32 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
 Morphic fields are your god???

 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Roger Cloughrclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Richard Ruquist

 They rule everything.


 [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
 1/3/2013
 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen

 - Receiving the following content -
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 Time: 2013-01-03, 11:48:05
 Subject: Re: Monads and Sheldrake

 Roger,

 But how do morphic fields fit in with this scheme of things?
 Richard

 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Roger Cloughrclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Richard Ruquist

 Sheldrake says that, if I remember properly,
 monads are a combination of mind and body,
 so are mindbrains. The perceptions of these
 in turn reflect all of the perceptions of all
 of the other monads in the universe, so the
 universe is a giant mindbrain. Then there
 is a universal memory.



 [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
 1/3/2013
 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
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 Time: 2013-01-03, 10:47:59
 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.


 Roger,
 How are morphic fields related to monads?
 Richard


 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

 Hi Telmo Menezes

 Sheldrake's been criticized in such a fashion for many of his results
 (there are a huge number of other types of observations) but I simply
 trust that he's not deceiving us. My reason is that materialists are
 untrustworthy themselves because they hate such things.
 Penrose gets similar flack for his remarks on intuition.

 You might try lookking at his results:

 Contempt prior to investigation will keep you forever in ignorance.

 - Herbert Spencer

 .
 1:25:27
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Re: Re: Re: Monads and Sheldrake

2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Richard Ruquist 

No, morphic fields are not God, they are the tools of God.


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
1/4/2013 
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
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Subject: Re: Re: Monads and Sheldrake


Morphic fields are your god???

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Richard Ruquist

 They rule everything.


 [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
 1/3/2013
 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen

 - Receiving the following content -
 From: Richard Ruquist
 Receiver: everything-list
 Time: 2013-01-03, 11:48:05
 Subject: Re: Monads and Sheldrake

 Roger,

 But how do morphic fields fit in with this scheme of things?
 Richard

 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Richard Ruquist

 Sheldrake says that, if I remember properly,
 monads are a combination of mind and body,
 so are mindbrains. The perceptions of these
 in turn reflect all of the perceptions of all
 of the other monads in the universe, so the
 universe is a giant mindbrain. Then there
 is a universal memory.



 [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
 1/3/2013
 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
 - Receiving the following content -
 From: Richard Ruquist
 Receiver: everything-list
 Time: 2013-01-03, 10:47:59
 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.


 Roger,
 How are morphic fields related to monads?
 Richard


 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

 Hi Telmo Menezes

 Sheldrake's been criticized in such a fashion for many of his results
 (there are a huge number of other types of observations) but I simply
 trust that he's not deceiving us. My reason is that materialists are
 untrustworthy themselves because they hate such things.
 Penrose gets similar flack for his remarks on intuition.

 You might try lookking at his results:

 Contempt prior to investigation will keep you forever in ignorance.

 - Herbert Spencer

 .
 1:25:27
 Dr Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion (May 2012)
 by Alan Roberts 6 months ago 10,803 views
 In May of 2012, Dr Alan Roberts, in association with the Wilmslow Guild,
 located near Manchester, UK, invited Dr Sheldrake to ...
 1:20:28
 Rupert Sheldrake - The Morphogenetic Universe
 by BroadcastBC 8 months ago 6,707 views
 In 1981 Rupert Sheldrake outraged the scientific establishment with his
 hypothesis of morphic resonance. A morphogenetic field ...
 1:37:42
 The Extended Mind: Recent Experimental Evidence
 by GoogleTechTalks 4 years ago 250,577 views
 enabling widespread participation. Speaker: Rupert Sheldrake Rupert
 Sheldrake, Ph.D. is a biologist and author of more than ...
 CC
 1:02:24
 Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion | London Real
 by LondonRealTV 1 month ago 10,264 views
 London Real talks to Biologist  Writer Dr. Rupert Sheldrake TWEET this
 video clicktotweet.com VISIT us @ www.LondonReal.tv ...
 9:38
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 7:10
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 by Dan Booth Cohen 4 months ago 2,601 views
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 31:00
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 by metaRising 1 year ago 4,889 views
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 papers and ten books. A former Research Fellow of the ...
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 by loadedshaman 1 year ago 15,768 views
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 1:05:49
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Re: Re: Monads and Sheldrake

2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Richard Ruquist 

They rule everything.


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
1/3/2013 
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
- Receiving the following content - 
From: Richard Ruquist 
Receiver: everything-list 
Time: 2013-01-03, 11:48:05
Subject: Re: Monads and Sheldrake


Roger,

But how do morphic fields fit in with this scheme of things?
Richard

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Richard Ruquist

 Sheldrake says that, if I remember properly,
 monads are a combination of mind and body,
 so are mindbrains. The perceptions of these
 in turn reflect all of the perceptions of all
 of the other monads in the universe, so the
 universe is a giant mindbrain. Then there
 is a universal memory.



 [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
 1/3/2013
 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
 - Receiving the following content -
 From: Richard Ruquist
 Receiver: everything-list
 Time: 2013-01-03, 10:47:59
 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.


 Roger,
 How are morphic fields related to monads?
 Richard


 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

 Hi Telmo Menezes

 Sheldrake's been criticized in such a fashion for many of his results
 (there are a huge number of other types of observations) but I simply
 trust that he's not deceiving us. My reason is that materialists are
 untrustworthy themselves because they hate such things.
 Penrose gets similar flack for his remarks on intuition.

 You might try lookking at his results:

 Contempt prior to investigation will keep you forever in ignorance.

 - Herbert Spencer

 .
 1:25:27
 Dr Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion (May 2012)
 by Alan Roberts 6 months ago 10,803 views
 In May of 2012, Dr Alan Roberts, in association with the Wilmslow Guild, 
 located near Manchester, UK, invited Dr Sheldrake to ...
 1:20:28
 Rupert Sheldrake - The Morphogenetic Universe
 by BroadcastBC 8 months ago 6,707 views
 In 1981 Rupert Sheldrake outraged the scientific establishment with his 
 hypothesis of morphic resonance. A morphogenetic field ...
 1:37:42
 The Extended Mind: Recent Experimental Evidence
 by GoogleTechTalks 4 years ago 250,577 views
 enabling widespread participation. Speaker: Rupert Sheldrake Rupert 
 Sheldrake, Ph.D. is a biologist and author of more than ...
 CC
 1:02:24
 Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion | London Real
 by LondonRealTV 1 month ago 10,264 views
 London Real talks to Biologist  Writer Dr. Rupert Sheldrake TWEET this video 
 clicktotweet.com VISIT us @ www.LondonReal.tv ...
 9:38
 Rupert Sheldrake 1 - 'A New Science of Life' - Interview by Iain McNay
 by conscioustv 3 years ago 10,340 views
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 Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than ...
 7:10
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 by Dan Booth Cohen 4 months ago 2,601 views
 Biologist Rupert Sheldrake speaks about morphic fields and Systemic Family 
 Constellations. He explains how all social animals ...
 31:00
 Rupert Sheldrake - Distant Mental Influence
 by metaRising 1 year ago 4,889 views
 Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than 80 scientific papers 
 and ten books. A former Research Fellow of the ...
 1:14:36
 Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham - Metamorphosis
 by loadedshaman 1 year ago 15,768 views
 Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham - Metamorphosis (1995)
 1:05:49
 Rupert Sheldrake: the Evolution of Telepathy
 by Brian Josephson 1 year ago 10,918 views
 The Perrott-Warrick Lecture by Dr. Rupert Sheldrake (February 9th. 2011), in 
 which were described phenomena indicative of the ...
 4:38
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 by Bill Weaver 4 months ago 11,200 views
 HD
 5:45
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 by Matthew Clapp 5 years ago 86,152 views
 The renowned biologist Rupert Sheldrake presents his recent findings, 
 powerfully suggesting that part of us extends beyond our ...
 10:24
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 by xcite83 3 years ago 89,453 views
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 now researches and writes on parapsychology and ...
 9:48
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Re: Re: Monads and Sheldrake

2013-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
Morphic fields are your god???

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Richard Ruquist

 They rule everything.


 [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
 1/3/2013
 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen

 - Receiving the following content -
 From: Richard Ruquist
 Receiver: everything-list
 Time: 2013-01-03, 11:48:05
 Subject: Re: Monads and Sheldrake

 Roger,

 But how do morphic fields fit in with this scheme of things?
 Richard

 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Richard Ruquist

 Sheldrake says that, if I remember properly,
 monads are a combination of mind and body,
 so are mindbrains. The perceptions of these
 in turn reflect all of the perceptions of all
 of the other monads in the universe, so the
 universe is a giant mindbrain. Then there
 is a universal memory.



 [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
 1/3/2013
 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen
 - Receiving the following content -
 From: Richard Ruquist
 Receiver: everything-list
 Time: 2013-01-03, 10:47:59
 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.


 Roger,
 How are morphic fields related to monads?
 Richard


 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

 Hi Telmo Menezes

 Sheldrake's been criticized in such a fashion for many of his results
 (there are a huge number of other types of observations) but I simply
 trust that he's not deceiving us. My reason is that materialists are
 untrustworthy themselves because they hate such things.
 Penrose gets similar flack for his remarks on intuition.

 You might try lookking at his results:

 Contempt prior to investigation will keep you forever in ignorance.

 - Herbert Spencer

 .
 1:25:27
 Dr Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion (May 2012)
 by Alan Roberts 6 months ago 10,803 views
 In May of 2012, Dr Alan Roberts, in association with the Wilmslow Guild,
 located near Manchester, UK, invited Dr Sheldrake to ...
 1:20:28
 Rupert Sheldrake - The Morphogenetic Universe
 by BroadcastBC 8 months ago 6,707 views
 In 1981 Rupert Sheldrake outraged the scientific establishment with his
 hypothesis of morphic resonance. A morphogenetic field ...
 1:37:42
 The Extended Mind: Recent Experimental Evidence
 by GoogleTechTalks 4 years ago 250,577 views
 enabling widespread participation. Speaker: Rupert Sheldrake Rupert
 Sheldrake, Ph.D. is a biologist and author of more than ...
 CC
 1:02:24
 Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion | London Real
 by LondonRealTV 1 month ago 10,264 views
 London Real talks to Biologist  Writer Dr. Rupert Sheldrake TWEET this
 video clicktotweet.com VISIT us @ www.LondonReal.tv ...
 9:38
 Rupert Sheldrake 1 - 'A New Science of Life' - Interview by Iain McNay
 by conscioustv 3 years ago 10,340 views
 Rupert Sheldrake - 'A New Science of Life' - Interview by Iain McNay
 Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than ...
 7:10
 Rupert Sheldrake on Morphic Fields and Systemic Family Constellations
 by Dan Booth Cohen 4 months ago 2,601 views
 Biologist Rupert Sheldrake speaks about morphic fields and Systemic Family
 Constellations. He explains how all social animals ...
 31:00
 Rupert Sheldrake - Distant Mental Influence
 by metaRising 1 year ago 4,889 views
 Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than 80 scientific
 papers and ten books. A former Research Fellow of the ...
 1:14:36
 Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham - Metamorphosis
 by loadedshaman 1 year ago 15,768 views
 Terence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham - Metamorphosis (1995)
 1:05:49
 Rupert Sheldrake: the Evolution of Telepathy
 by Brian Josephson 1 year ago 10,918 views
 The Perrott-Warrick Lecture by Dr. Rupert Sheldrake (February 9th. 2011),
 in which were described phenomena indicative of the ...
 4:38
 Science Set Free -- Rupert Sheldrake
 by Bill Weaver 4 months ago 11,200 views
 HD
 5:45
 Rupert Sheldrake: Telephone Telepathy
 by Matthew Clapp 5 years ago 86,152 views
 The renowned biologist Rupert Sheldrake presents his recent findings,
 powerfully suggesting that part of us extends beyond our ...
 10:24
 Rupert Sheldrake - The Extended Mind - Telepathy. Pt 1/3
 by xcite83 3 years ago 89,453 views
 Rupert Sheldrake is a British former biochemist and plant physiologist who
 now researches and writes on parapsychology and ...
 9:48
 Rupert Sheldrake - Genie oder Scharlatan? 1/4
 by quantumsciencetv 1 year ago 9,105 views
 Die ?liche Biologie f?rt in eine Sackgasse. (RS) ?er die Thesen des
 umstrittenen Wissenschaftlers, den Bezug zur ...
 3:24
 The Morphogenic Field Part 1
 by Dyule 4 years ago 9,922 views
 Rupert Sheldrake on morphogenic fields. www.sheldrake.org ... dyule ...
 physical science biology consciousness ...
 5:57
 Rupert Sheldrake - The Rise of Shamanism
 by heartofthehealer 3 years ago 25,632 views
 Rupert Sheldrake, one of the worlds most innovative biologists, is best
 known