Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chanceofthunderstorms
Hi Stephen P. King Monads are inextended, so can have no spatial presence. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/23/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-22, 10:58:42 Subject: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chanceofthunderstorms Dear Roger, You are being inconsistent to the very definition of a monad. They do not have an outside that could ever been seen from a point of view and thus to think of them as if they do, such as the concept of a space full of them (which implies mutual displacement) if to think of them as atoms that are exclusively outside view defined. Within the Monadology all concepts that imply an outside view are strictly defined in terms of appearances from the inside. On 8/22/2012 9:09 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Roger, Space is not empty. It is full of monads at 10^90/cc. These are the building blocks of space in integration-information theory. Richard On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist You need to study the monadology. And the history of modern physics. Space does not physically exist for L (as for us) because it is empty, as the Milligan-whatshisname experiment proved a century ago. The notion of an ether is a fantasy. It doesn't exist. Photons just go from A to B through a quantum or mathematical wavefield, not an actual one. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/22/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-22, 07:06:07 Subject: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chance ofthunderstorms Roger, monads are by definition nonlocal does not mean that space does not exist. Your logic is faulty. Richard On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi benjayk In monadic theory,?ince space does not exist, monads are by definition nonlocal, thus all minds in a sense are one and can commune with one another as well as with God (the mind behind the supreme monad). The clarity of intercommunication will of course depend, of course, on the sensitivity of the monads, their intelligence, and how near (resonant) their partners are, as well as other factors?uch as whether or not its a clear?onadic weather day. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/22/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: benjayk Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-21, 17:24:01 Subject: Re: Simple proof that our intelligence transcends that of computers meekerdb wrote: This sentence cannot be confirmed to be true by a human being. The Computer He might be right in saying that (See my response to Saibal). But it can't confirm it as well (how could it, since we as humans can't confirm it and what he knows about us derives from what we program into it?). So still, it is less capable than a human. -- -- Onward! Stephen Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. ~ Francis Bacon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chanceofthunderstorms
Roger, Please tell us how you know that. If you refer back to Leibniz, then you are treating science like a religion, making Liebniz into a prophet that must be believed. Richard On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Stephen P. King Monads are inextended, so can have no spatial presence. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/23/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - *From:* Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net *Receiver:* everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com *Time:* 2012-08-22, 10:58:42 *Subject:* Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chanceofthunderstorms Dear Roger, You are being inconsistent to the very definition of a monad. They do not have an outside that could ever been seen from a point of view and thus to think of them as if they do, such as the concept of a space full of them (which implies mutual displacement) if to think of them as atoms that are exclusively outside view defined. Within the Monadology all concepts that imply an outside view are strictly defined in terms of appearances from the inside. On 8/22/2012 9:09 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Roger, Space is not empty. It is full of monads at 10^90/cc. These are the building blocks of space in integration-information theory. Richard On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist You need to study the monadology. And the history of modern physics. Space does not physically exist for L (as for us) because it is empty, as the Milligan-whatshisname experiment proved a century ago. The notion of an ether is a fantasy. It doesn't exist. Photons just go from A to B through a quantum or mathematical wavefield, not an actual one. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/22/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - *From:* Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com *Receiver:* everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com *Time:* 2012-08-22, 07:06:07 *Subject:* Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chance ofthunderstorms Roger, monads are by definition nonlocal does not mean that space does not exist. Your logic is faulty. Richard On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.netwrote: Hi benjayk In monadic theory,�since space does not exist, monads are by definition nonlocal, thus all minds in a sense are one and can commune with one another as well as with God (the mind behind the supreme monad). The clarity of intercommunication will of course depend, of course, on the sensitivity of the monads, their intelligence, and how near (resonant) their partners are, as well as other factors�such as whether or not its a clear�monadic weather day. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/22/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - *From:* benjayk benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com *Receiver:* everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com *Time:* 2012-08-21, 17:24:01 *Subject:* Re: Simple proof that our intelligence transcends that of computers meekerdb wrote: This sentence cannot be confirmed to be true by a human being. The Computer He might be right in saying that (See my response to Saibal). But it can't confirm it as well (how could it, since we as humans can't confirm it and what he knows about us derives from what we program into it?). So still, it is less capable than a human. -- -- Onward! Stephen Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. ~ Francis Bacon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chanceofthunderstorms
Hi Richard Ruquist I'm getting tired of trying to explain this to you. You have to do more thinking. Monads have no extension. And they have no location nor time. So they are merely theoretical, extensionless, outside of spacetime. You have to have extension to physically exist. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/22/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-22, 09:09:31 Subject: Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chanceofthunderstorms Roger, Space is not empty. It is full of monads at 10^90/cc. These are the building blocks of space in integration-information theory. Richard On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist You need to study the monadology. And the history of modern physics. Space does not physically exist for L (as for us) because it is empty, as the Milligan-whatshisname experiment proved a century ago. The notion of an ether is a fantasy. It doesn't exist. Photons just go from A to B through a quantum or mathematical wavefield, not an actual one. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/22/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-22, 07:06:07 Subject: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chance ofthunderstorms Roger, monads are by definition nonlocal does not mean that space does not exist. Your logic is faulty. Richard On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi benjayk In monadic theory,?ince space does not exist, monads are by definition nonlocal, thus all minds in a sense are one and can commune with one another as well as with God (the mind behind the supreme monad). The clarity of intercommunication will of course depend, of course, on the sensitivity of the monads, their intelligence, and how near (resonant) their partners are, as well as other factors?uch as whether or not its a clear?onadic weather day. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 8/22/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function. - Receiving the following content - From: benjayk Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-21, 17:24:01 Subject: Re: Simple proof that our intelligence transcends that of computers meekerdb wrote: This sentence cannot be confirmed to be true by a human being. The Computer He might be right in saying that (See my response to Saibal). But it can't confirm it as well (how could it, since we as humans can't confirm it and what he knows about us derives from what we program into it?). So still, it is less capable than a human. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Simple-proof-that-our-intelligence-transcends-that-of-computers-tp34330236p34331679.html Sent from the Everything List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message
Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Re: NewsFlash: Monadic weather today will be cloudy with a chanceofthunderstorms
On 8/22/2012 6:17 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist I'm getting tired of trying to explain this to you. You have to do more thinking. Monads have no extension. And they have no location nor time. So they are merely theoretical, extensionless, outside of spacetime. You have to have extension to physically exist. Who told you that? So far as is known experimentally electrons are point particles and that's how they are modeled in QFT. If string theory turns out to be a better model, they'll have extension in that model - but there's no logical or meta-physical reason that they can't be points. Points are places in space, i.e. world lines in spacetime. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
