Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations
Hi Richard Ruquist Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/8/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-07, 11:17:19 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations Then where do the CYMs and their properties come from ? Nature, or god- samething. There may be a programmer that initiated the chain of universes. But that programmer is far removed from us. The god or cosmic consciousness that relates to us and life in general in this universe is manifested by the CYMs who were created during the big bang according to string theory.. Richard On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist Then where do the CYMs and their properties come from ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/7/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-06, 10:39:34 Subject: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations Roger, In string theory the laws and constants of physics and chemistry come from the 6-d Calabi-Yau Compact Manifolds which are like the Leibnitz monads and/or the Indra Pearls of Buddhism. They number about 10^90/cc through out the universe, whereas there are about 10^90 particles in the visible universe, an interesting coincidence. Richard On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou Where did the laws of physics and chemistry come from that enable it to work ? The Tooth Fairy ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/6/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-05, 19:41:44 Subject: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou You left out the guy who puts together the pieces. So if the pieces just happened to fall into the right place spontaneously the car would not work? -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations
Hi Richard Ruquist Fine, except I think that intelligence, since it was needed for the Big Bang, had to be there beforehand, where time did not yet exist. But intelligence is beyond spacetime anyway, so it always was. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/8/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-07, 11:17:19 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations Then where do the CYMs and their properties come from ? Nature, or god- samething. There may be a programmer that initiated the chain of universes. But that programmer is far removed from us. The god or cosmic consciousness that relates to us and life in general in this universe is manifested by the CYMs who were created during the big bang according to string theory.. Richard On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist Then where do the CYMs and their properties come from ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/7/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-06, 10:39:34 Subject: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations Roger, In string theory the laws and constants of physics and chemistry come from the 6-d Calabi-Yau Compact Manifolds which are like the Leibnitz monads and/or the Indra Pearls of Buddhism. They number about 10^90/cc through out the universe, whereas there are about 10^90 particles in the visible universe, an interesting coincidence. Richard On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou Where did the laws of physics and chemistry come from that enable it to work ? The Tooth Fairy ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/6/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-05, 19:41:44 Subject: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou You left out the guy who puts together the pieces. So if the pieces just happened to fall into the right place spontaneously the car would not work? -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations
Hi Richard Ruquist Then where do the CYMs and their properties come from ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/7/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-06, 10:39:34 Subject: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations Roger, In string theory the laws and constants of physics and chemistry come from the 6-d Calabi-Yau Compact Manifolds which are like the Leibnitz monads and/or the Indra Pearls of Buddhism. They number about 10^90/cc through out the universe, whereas there are about 10^90 particles in the visible universe, an interesting coincidence. Richard On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou Where did the laws of physics and chemistry come from that enable it to work ? The Tooth Fairy ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/6/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-05, 19:41:44 Subject: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou You left out the guy who puts together the pieces. So if the pieces just happened to fall into the right place spontaneously the car would not work? -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou Don't avoid my question please. Where do the laws of physics come from ? One theory is that existence of platonic entities such as numbers is not ontologically distinct from actual existence. In that case, all possible universes necessarily exist, and the one that has the laws of physics allowing observers is the one the observers observe. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations
Then where do the CYMs and their properties come from ? Nature, or god- samething. There may be a programmer that initiated the chain of universes. But that programmer is far removed from us. The god or cosmic consciousness that relates to us and life in general in this universe is manifested by the CYMs who were created during the big bang according to string theory.. Richard On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist Then where do the CYMs and their properties come from ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/7/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-06, 10:39:34 Subject: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations Roger, In string theory the laws and constants of physics and chemistry come from the 6-d Calabi-Yau Compact Manifolds which are like the Leibnitz monads and/or the Indra Pearls of Buddhism. They number about 10^90/cc through out the universe, whereas there are about 10^90 particles in the visible universe, an interesting coincidence. Richard On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou Where did the laws of physics and chemistry come from that enable it to work ? The Tooth Fairy ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/6/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-05, 19:41:44 Subject: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou You left out the guy who puts together the pieces. So if the pieces just happened to fall into the right place spontaneously the car would not work? -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations
Hi Stathis Papaioannou Don't avoid my question please. Where do the laws of physics come from ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/6/2012 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-06, 09:43:35 Subject: Re: Re: Re: On complexity and bottom-up theories and calculations On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stathis Papaioannou Where did the laws of physics and chemistry come from that enable it to work ? The Tooth Fairy ? Yes, the Tooth Fairy. I know this because I read it in a book, and the book said that every word was true. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
