Re: Re: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing

2012-11-21 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Russell Standish 

Sorry, my mistake, I remembered wrong. It was somebody else.


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11/21/2012 
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Subject: Re: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing


On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:31:05AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
 Hi Russell Standish 
 
 I did land on your website or look up your book.
 You do have some radical assumptions, one of
 them puzzling to me-- that time is an external variable.
 External to what ? mind ? the physical world ?
 
 

That's not an assumption I make. The TIME postulate is that observers
process distinct observations selected from an ordered set (eg a
timescale). It is certainly not external to anything, as it is very
much observer relative. See the discussion on pages 64-65.

Cheers

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Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au
University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au


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Re: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing

2012-11-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Russell Standish 

I did land on your website or look up your book.
You do have some radical assumptions, one of
them puzzling to me-- that time is an external variable.
External to what ? mind ? the physical world ?


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/20/2012 
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Time: 2012-11-19, 18:56:44
Subject: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:20:45AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
 Hi Russell Standish 
 
 According to a web page, havege is probably the
 best random number generator known, but it still 
 is not a true random number gen. There must be

They are probably being modest. What they have is as close to a true
random number generator as is physically possible. It beats
radioactive decay and lava lamps by several orders of magnitude.

 ways of testing for true randomness statistically.

There are, but all of them are only partial tests. Just as it is
impossible (short of exhaustive enumeration) to know if one has the
shortest program giving a particular sequence, it is impossible to
know for certain if a given sequence is truly random (wrt a reference
TM), as that requires knowing there is no program shorter than the
length of the sequence iteself generating that sequence.

 But that doesn't really bother me if we are only talking
 about apparent randomness.
 

HAVEGE is as random as the real world. Sure, it is possible that the
real world is utterly deterministic, but then QM is not a true
description of reality.

 Anyway, I looked up your theory of nothing 
 book on wikipedia and find it very interesting.

Wikipedia only has passing references to it, mainly from the Library
of Babel article. You probably landed on my website :).


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Re: Re: Two possible ways of creating actual objects out of nothing

2012-11-20 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:31:05AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
 Hi Russell Standish 
 
 I did land on your website or look up your book.
 You do have some radical assumptions, one of
 them puzzling to me-- that time is an external variable.
 External to what ? mind ? the physical world ?
 
 

That's not an assumption I make. The TIME postulate is that observers
process distinct observations selected from an ordered set (eg a
timescale). It is certainly not external to anything, as it is very
much observer relative. See the discussion on pages 64-65.

Cheers

-- 


Prof Russell Standish  Phone 0425 253119 (mobile)
Principal, High Performance Coders
Visiting Professor of Mathematics  hpco...@hpcoders.com.au
University of New South Wales  http://www.hpcoders.com.au


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