Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-10 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 09.09.2011 23:06 meekerdb said the following: On 9/9/2011 1:37 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 09.09.2011 21:58 meekerdb said the following: On 9/9/2011 11:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 06.09.2011 22:25 meekerdb said the following: On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: I was talking

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-10 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 07.09.2011 13:47 Stephen P. King said the following: OTOH, it is incoherent to say that the Universals = 'what the nominals have in common' since we cannot prevent nominals that can entirely contradict each other. A possible solution to this is to consider how communication between

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 06.09.2011 22:25 meekerdb said the following: On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: I was talking about realism in a sense that universals exist (I am not sure if this could be generalized for all things). My first naive/crazy idea was that this could give some basis to produce qualia

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-09 Thread meekerdb
On 9/9/2011 11:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 06.09.2011 22:25 meekerdb said the following: On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: I was talking about realism in a sense that universals exist (I am not sure if this could be generalized for all things). My first naive/crazy idea was that

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 09.09.2011 21:58 meekerdb said the following: On 9/9/2011 11:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 06.09.2011 22:25 meekerdb said the following: On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: I was talking about realism in a sense that universals exist (I am not sure if this could be generalized

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-09 Thread meekerdb
On 9/9/2011 1:37 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 09.09.2011 21:58 meekerdb said the following: On 9/9/2011 11:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 06.09.2011 22:25 meekerdb said the following: On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: I was talking about realism in a sense that universals exist (I

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-07 Thread Stephen P. King
On 9/6/2011 3:23 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Let me try it this way. Could we say that universals exist already in the 3d person view and they are independent from the 1st person view? Evgenii On 06.09.2011 09:00 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 05 Sep 2011, at 21:02, Evgenii Rudnyi

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Sep 2011, at 21:23, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Let me try it this way. Could we say that universals exist already in the 3d person view and they are independent from the 1st person view? I think we can say that. With the 'modern logic' approach we can bypass the middle-age problem of

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-07 Thread meekerdb
On 9/7/2011 4:47 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: Does the existence of said universals act as a guarantor of the definiteness of the properties of the universals? As I see it, existence per say is neutral, it is merely the necessary possibility to be. ?? necessary possibility = necessity ??

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Sep 2011, at 21:02, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Realism and nominalism in philosophy are related to universals (I guess that numbers could be probably considered as universals as well). A simple example: A is a person; B is a person. Does A is equal to B? The answer is no, A and B are

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-06 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Let me try it this way. Could we say that universals exist already in the 3d person view and they are independent from the 1st person view? Evgenii On 06.09.2011 09:00 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 05 Sep 2011, at 21:02, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Realism and nominalism in philosophy are

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-06 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
I was talking about realism in a sense that universals exist (I am not sure if this could be generalized for all things). My first naive/crazy idea was that this could give some basis to produce qualia related to notation. Neurons somehow distill universals from things and report them. On the

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-06 Thread meekerdb
On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: I was talking about realism in a sense that universals exist (I am not sure if this could be generalized for all things). My first naive/crazy idea was that this could give some basis to produce qualia related to notation. Neurons somehow distill

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Evgenii, On 04 Sep 2011, at 18:30, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: A short remark. I have decided start with philosophy, as it is more entertaining as mathematical logic. I'm afraid you are wrong on this, with all my respect. Mathematical logic is the most entertaining thing in the world

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-05 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Realism and nominalism in philosophy are related to universals (I guess that numbers could be probably considered as universals as well). A simple example: A is a person; B is a person. Does A is equal to B? The answer is no, A and B are after all different persons. Yet then the question

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-05 Thread meekerdb
On 9/5/2011 12:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Realism and nominalism in philosophy are related to universals (I guess that numbers could be probably considered as universals as well). A simple example: A is a person; B is a person. Does A is equal to B? The answer is no, A and B are after all

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-05 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi Brent, On 9/5/2011 3:50 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 9/5/2011 12:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Realism and nominalism in philosophy are related to universals (I guess that numbers could be probably considered as universals as well). A simple example: A is a person; B is a person. Does A is

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-05 Thread meekerdb
On 9/5/2011 1:40 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Brent, On 9/5/2011 3:50 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 9/5/2011 12:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Realism and nominalism in philosophy are related to universals (I guess that numbers could be probably considered as universals as well). A simple example:

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-05 Thread Stephen P. King
On 9/5/2011 6:32 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 9/5/2011 1:40 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Brent, On 9/5/2011 3:50 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 9/5/2011 12:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Realism and nominalism in philosophy are related to universals (I guess that numbers could be probably considered as

Re: Realism, nominalism and comp

2011-09-05 Thread meekerdb
On 9/5/2011 8:13 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 9/5/2011 6:32 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 9/5/2011 1:40 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Brent, On 9/5/2011 3:50 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 9/5/2011 12:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Realism and nominalism in philosophy are related to universals (I guess that