Re: SV: computationalism and supervenience

2006-09-11 Thread Russell Standish

On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 11:43:48PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote:
> 
> Lennart Nilsson wrote:
> ...
> > But my point is that this may come down to what we would mean by a computer
> > being 
> > conscious.  Bruno has an answer in terms of what the computer can prove.
> > Jaynes (and 
> > probably John McCarthy) would say a computer is conscious if it creates a
> > narrative 
> > of its experience which it can access as memory.
> > 
> > Brent Meeker
> > 
> > Humphrey says it has to have an evolutionary past.
> > LN
> 
> I've read some of Humphrey's books, but I don't recall that.  What's his 
> argument? 
> Whats the citation?
> 
> Brent Meeker
> 

Wasn't he the Machievellian Intelligence guy? If so, then MI is an
evolutionary explanation, but a different one to say what Dennet gives
in Consciousness Exaplined book.

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Re: SV: computationalism and supervenience

2006-09-10 Thread Brent Meeker

Lennart Nilsson wrote:
...
> But my point is that this may come down to what we would mean by a computer
> being 
> conscious.  Bruno has an answer in terms of what the computer can prove.
> Jaynes (and 
> probably John McCarthy) would say a computer is conscious if it creates a
> narrative 
> of its experience which it can access as memory.
> 
> Brent Meeker
> 
> Humphrey says it has to have an evolutionary past.
> LN

I've read some of Humphrey's books, but I don't recall that.  What's his 
argument? 
Whats the citation?

Brent Meeker

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