Re: Santa Klaus does exist!

2013-12-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Dec 2013, at 06:30, Jesse Mazer wrote: Thanks Bruno. As I understand it step 8's movie-graph argument is making a point similar to the implementation problem chalmers discusses in the paper at http://consc.net/papers/rock.html -- basically the problem is that there seems to be no

Re: Santa Klaus does exist!

2013-12-11 Thread Jesse Mazer
Thanks Bruno. As I understand it step 8's movie-graph argument is making a point similar to the implementation problem chalmers discusses in the paper at http://consc.net/papers/rock.html -- basically the problem is that there seems to be no good way to decide whether a given physical system

Re: Santa Klaus does exist!

2013-12-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:45, meekerdb wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:03 PM, Jesse Mazer wrote: I don't have institutional access but I was able to read it online, though not to download it as a PDF (I just copy-and-pasted all the text for future reference instead). It's great to see each step of the

Re: Santa Klaus does exist!

2013-12-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:03, Jesse Mazer wrote: I don't have institutional access but I was able to read it online, That was what Elsevier (Santa) promised. though not to download it as a PDF Pfftt Santa looks like being a bit shabby those days ... (I just copy-and-pasted all

Re: Santa Klaus does exist!

2013-12-09 Thread meekerdb
Excellent, Bruno! I'm very glad for you - and for the wider audience that will now read your ideas. However I notice Santa only delivers if you have institutional access. I do. But others on the list may not. Brent On 12/9/2013 2:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi, Santa Klaus exists, and by

Re: Santa Klaus does exist!

2013-12-09 Thread Jesse Mazer
I don't have institutional access but I was able to read it online, though not to download it as a PDF (I just copy-and-pasted all the text for future reference instead). It's great to see each step of the argument laid out in greater detail than I've seen on the list (admittedly I don't

Re: Santa Klaus does exist!

2013-12-09 Thread meekerdb
On 12/9/2013 2:03 PM, Jesse Mazer wrote: I don't have institutional access but I was able to read it online, though not to download it as a PDF (I just copy-and-pasted all the text for future reference instead). It's great to see each step of the argument laid out in greater detail than I've