Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 May 2013, at 19:08, Johnathan Corgan wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:23 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 17 May 2013, at 22:52, Johnathan Corgan wrote: A common occurrence reported by users of Salvia Divinorum is that of having lived an entire alternate life in the

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 May 2013, at 13:31, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Why people do not include the original link in their mails is something I can not understand This is the article where the text was extracted: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/?p=155740 The most interesting thing is at the end: It

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-19 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 17, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: The documented fact that people have had near death experiences after death [...] Huh? If its after death then they are not nearly dead they are completely dead. The fact that sometimes the brain generates hallucinations when it

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 May 2013, at 17:33, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2013/5/17 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 17 May 2013, at 12:07, Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 05:39:50AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Art Funkhouser The documented fact that people have had near death experiences

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 May 2013, at 22:52, Johnathan Corgan wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Salvia and DMT seem to have NDE like effects A common occurrence reported by users of Salvia Divinorum is that of having lived an entire alternate life in the few

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Why people do not include the original link in their mails is something I can not understand This is the article where the text was extracted: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/?p=155740 The most interesting thing is at the end: It reports a pacient resucitated after 40 minutes from a cooling

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-18 Thread Johnathan Corgan
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:23 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 17 May 2013, at 22:52, Johnathan Corgan wrote: A common occurrence reported by users of Salvia Divinorum is that of having lived an entire alternate life in the few minutes of intoxication, and even being surprised

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-18 Thread meekerdb
On 5/18/2013 4:31 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: traditional wishdom A freudian typo? Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
A typo like many others In my side ;) What is embarrassing for me is that I´m incapable to see them even if I check the writing. I beg your pardon. 2013/5/18 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net On 5/18/2013 4:31 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: traditional wishdom A freudian typo? Brent --

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-18 Thread meekerdb
On 5/18/2013 12:33 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: A typo like many others In my side ;) What is embarrassing for me is that I´m incapable to see them even if I check the writing. I beg your pardon. No need for pardon. I think it's an excellent neologism with broad application. wishdom: n.

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-17 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 05:39:50AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Art Funkhouser The documented fact that people have had near death experiences after death, after electrical activity in the brain ceases suggests to me at least that the mind does not need the brain to function.

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 May 2013, at 12:07, Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 05:39:50AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Art Funkhouser The documented fact that people have had near death experiences after death, after electrical activity in the brain ceases suggests to me at least that the mind

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-17 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2013/5/17 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 17 May 2013, at 12:07, Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 05:39:50AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Art Funkhouser The documented fact that people have had near death experiences after death, after electrical activity in the

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-17 Thread meekerdb
On 5/17/2013 2:39 AM, Roger Clough wrote: The documented fact that people have had near death experiences after death, after electrical activity in the brain ceases There are no such documented facts. First, EKG's used to monitor brain activity cannot detect neural activity deep in the

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-17 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 5/17/2013 2:39 AM, Roger Clough wrote: The documented fact that people have had near death experiences after death, after electrical activity in the brain ceases There are no such documented facts. First, EKG's

Re: That the mind works even after the brain ceases to function suggests its independence

2013-05-17 Thread Johnathan Corgan
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Salvia and DMT seem to have NDE like effects A common occurrence reported by users of Salvia Divinorum is that of having lived an entire alternate life in the few minutes of intoxication, and even being surprised and