Re: The background to Edgar's book

2014-01-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Hi John, as a former ed-in-chief of a science magazine (Ion Exchange and Membranes) I know the difficulties one can

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread LizR
The reason I asked the original question in this thread is to get some idea of the background to Edgar's work, in particular, I was interest to know if there is any logical or mathematical underpinning to it, if it is a development of ideas that have been previously published, and so on. Getting

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Liz, You claim my theory of time is Newtonian but that just demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of the theory... Well, this one is at least a few hundred years old: You disagree only because it is obvious

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: Hi John, as a former ed-in-chief of a science magazine (Ion Exchange and Membranes) I know the difficulties one can run into if trying to get peer-review approval on NEW ideas that do not fit into the

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Hi Liz, The Two kinds of time theory is original with me dating back to 2007. I've presented it in quite a clear logical framework from a couple different perspectives in my posts to this group. The logic is quite clear and quite convincing, but only when the underlying concept is clearly

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread Jason Resch
On Dec 31, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Hi Liz, The Two kinds of time theory is original with me dating back to 2007. I've presented it in quite a clear logical framework from a couple different perspectives in my posts to this group. The logic is quite clear

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Jason, As I've explained on a number of occasions SR has nothing to say about why clock times are different in a SHARED same actual present moment in which the twins coexist for the rest of their lives after they meet up again. SR (actually GR for the twins since their clocks read different

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Jason, As I've explained on a number of occasions SR has nothing to say about why clock times are different in a SHARED same actual present moment in which the twins coexist for the rest of their lives after they meet

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Jason, Correct on your last point. Without the twins being in the exact same actual present moment there would be no way for them to shake hands and compare watches, specifically their watches that show different clock times. Their Present time is simultaneous but their clock times aren't. The

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread John Mikes
Dear Liz: you wrote in your PS: epitheton is itself an ornamental epitheton, I'd say. I do hope it wasn't just a typo! I looked up epitheton and found (German) vocabulary meanings without any hint to an ornamental nature. In a Google English translational part it appeared as EPITHET with the

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread LizR
On 1 January 2014 02:55, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: Hi John, as a former ed-in-chief of a science magazine (Ion Exchange and Membranes) I know the difficulties one can run into if

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread LizR
On 1 January 2014 03:22, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Hi Liz, The Two kinds of time theory is original with me dating back to 2007. I've presented it in quite a clear logical framework from a couple different perspectives in my posts to this group. The logic is quite clear and

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread meekerdb
On 12/31/2013 5:55 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Hi John, as a former ed-in-chief of a science magazine (Ion Exchange and Membranes) I know the difficulties one

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-31 Thread meekerdb
On 12/31/2013 8:39 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: SR (actually GR for the twins since their clocks read different due to relative accelerations) explains perfectly why clock times can end up non-simultaneous Again you betray you lack of comprehension of relativity theory. The difference in proper

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-30 Thread John Mikes
Dear Liz, as a former ed-in-chief of a science magazine (Ion Exchange and Membranes) I know the difficulties one can run into if trying to get peer-review approval on NEW ideas that do not fit into the conventional scientific fabric of college courses. I was a risk-taker and provided space for

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-30 Thread LizR
On 31 December 2013 10:38, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Liz, as a former ed-in-chief of a science magazine (Ion Exchange and Membranes) I know the difficulties one can run into if trying to get peer-review approval on NEW ideas that do not fit into the conventional scientific

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-30 Thread Edgar L. Owen
John, and Liz, Yes John is correct here. Without a current academic affiliation it's well nigh impossible to be accepted for publication in a peer reviewed journal... Sad but true... Edgar On Monday, December 30, 2013 4:38:40 PM UTC-5, JohnM wrote: Dear Liz, as a former ed-in-chief of a

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-30 Thread Edgar L. Owen
Liz, You claim my theory of time is Newtonian but that just demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of the theory... Edgar On Monday, December 30, 2013 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: On 31 December 2013 10:38, John Mikes jam...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Dear Liz, as a former

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-30 Thread LizR
On 31 December 2013 11:19, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Liz, You claim my theory of time is Newtonian but that just demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of the theory... It's just the simplest way to describe it. A common present moment is exactly how Newton envsiaged

Re: The background to Edgar's book

2013-12-30 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi John, as a former ed-in-chief of a science magazine (Ion Exchange and Membranes) I know the difficulties one can run into if trying to get peer-review approval on NEW ideas that do not fit into the conventional scientific fabric of college courses. I was a risk-taker and provided space for