Re: W boson anomaly, new physics or new methods?

[Lawrence Crowell]

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 6:00:31 AM UTC-5 johnk...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 6:25 AM Lawrence Crowell  
> wrote:
>
>> *> A natural possible unitless gravitational coupling constant might then 
>> be the α_g = (M_h/M_p)^2 for H_h the mass of the Higgs boson M_h = 125GeV*
>>  [...]
>>
>
> *I was wondering why you use the mass of the Higgs particle (125GeV) 
> rather than the value of the Higgs field that breaks electroweak symmetry 
> and gives mass to the W and Z bosons which is 246 GeV, I could be wrong but 
> in some ways it seems like a more important number.*
> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> 
>
>
That could also be a way to define this coupling constant. I am not sure 
which is better. This definition would almost  double it.

LC

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Re: W boson anomaly, new physics or new methods?

[John Clark]

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 6:25 AM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *> A natural possible unitless gravitational coupling constant might then
> be the α_g = (M_h/M_p)^2 for H_h the mass of the Higgs boson M_h = 125GeV*
>  [...]
>

*I was wondering why you use the mass of the Higgs particle (125GeV) rather
than the value of the Higgs field that breaks electroweak symmetry and
gives mass to the W and Z bosons which is 246 GeV, I could be wrong but in
some ways it seems like a more important number.*
John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis


keex

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Re: W boson anomaly, new physics or new methods?

[John Clark]

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 6:25 AM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:

*> A natural possible unitless gravitational coupling constant might then
> be the α_g = (M_h/M_p)^2 for H_h the mass of the Higgs boson M_h = 125GeV*
>  [...]
>

*I was wondering why you use the mass of the Higgs particle (125GeV) rather
than the value of the Higgs field that breaks electroweak symmetry and
gives mass to the W and Z bosons which is 246 GeV, I could be wrong but in
some ways it seems like a more important number.*

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis



>

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Re: W boson anomaly, new physics or new methods?

[John Clark]

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 6:27 AM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *> this can initially be seen by a possible definition of a dimensionless
> gravitational coupling constant. We are all familiar with Newton’s equation
> of gravitation F = -GMm/r^2 for the force between two masses M and m
> separated by a distance r. The Newton gravitational constant G =
> 6.67×10^{-7}N-m^2/kg^2 is not a convenient unit. Quantum electrodynamics
> provides the fine structure constant α = (1/4πε)e^2/ħc ≃ 1/137 that is
> unitless and then not dependent on any system of units. A natural possible
> unitless gravitational coupling constant might then be the α_g =
> (M_h/M_p)^2 for H_h the mass of the Higgs boson M_h = 125GeV and M_p =
> √{ħc/G} = 2.44×10^{18} GeV. This then has the form α_g = GM_h^2/ħc, which
> is similar to the fine structure constant of QED. Numerically this is α_g =
> 2.64×10^{-33}, which is a very small value.*
>

Wow, I hadn't thought of that before. If it turns out to be true it would
be the most revolutionary development in physics in a long time.

*> The connection between gravitation and gauge theory could also be seen
> with the equivalence between general relativity and teleparallel gravity. *


I believe Einstein himself worked on teleparallel gravity in an attempt to
unite gravity and electromagnetism, he hadn't managed to get it to work but
today maybe somebody can.

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

chg

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