Re: Worms that have been dead for over 45,000 years have been brought back to life

2023-07-31 Thread Jason Resch
Hamsters and rats can be frozen and reanimated by microwaves:

https://youtu.be/2tdiKTSdE9Y

It was theorized that it would work with larger mammals but the technical
problem is heating the entire animal all at once.

Contrary to the common belief that microwaves heat from the inside out,
they heat from the outside in.

Jason

On Sun, Jul 30, 2023, 7:30 AM John Clark  wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:15 AM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
>  wrote:
>
> *> means of survival, so this looks like evidence to me that you may be
>> correct? *
>>
>
> It's favorable evidence but it doesn't prove that human Cryonics will
> work, however it certainly proves that the old cliché that claims freezing
> and then thawing a cell always turns it into undifferentiated mush is not
> true.  Human Cryonics will be proven to work on the very day it becomes
> obsolete and is no longer needed, the day that Drexler style Nanotechnology
> becomes available .
>
> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
> 
>
> )^&
>
>
>
> Scientists have brought back to life Nematode worms that have been buried
>> 130 feet under the Siberian permafrost for between 45,839 and 47,769  years
>> according to Carbon-14 tests. Researchers at the Max Planck Institute in
>> Germany have now bred these worms for over 100 generations (worm
>> generations are about 10 days long) and they say it is a species of
>> Nematode that has never been seen before. They call it "Panagrolaimus
>> kolymaensis". The lead researcher says:
>>
>> *"Basically, you only have to bring the worms into amenable conditions,
>> on a culture (agar) plate with some bacteria, some humidity and room
>> temperature, they just start crawling around then. They also just start
>> reproducing. In this case this is even easier, as it is an all-female
>> (asexual) species. They don‘t need to find males and have sex, they just
>> start making eggs, which develop."*
>>
>> A novel nematode species from the Siberian permafrost shares adaptive
>> mechanisms for cryptobiotic survival with C. elegans dauer larva
>> 
>>
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Re: Worms that have been dead for over 45,000 years have been brought back to life

2023-07-31 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 7:44 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*> If we go by Kurzweil, and I am open to his views, that day will be 7
> years away in 2030. His view? Medical nanotechnology that will make K. Eric
> Drexler, a happy primate.*



Drexler didn't say that Nanotechnology will necessarily make human primates
happier, he said that when we enter the age of Nanotechnology things will
become eye-wateringly different. Personally I think the Singularity will be
a meat grinder, an individual might survive it and they might not, there's
no way to tell. That's why they call it a singularity.

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

tyc



If we go by Kurzweil, and I am open to his views, that day will be 7 years
> away in 2030. His view? Medical nanotechnology that will make K. Eric
> Drexler, a happy primate. Perhaps yourself, as well? On the other hand,
> laws and economics will then have to be changed, and you may be forced by
> eddict to pursue income, perhaps off-planet, so as to allow the young folks
> to have gainful employment, IF AI permits this?
>
> Ray Kurzweil: Enhanced Longevity by 2030 (lifeboat.com)
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Worms that have been dead for over 45,000 years have been brought back to life

2023-07-30 Thread 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
 If we go by Kurzweil, and I am open to his views, that day will be 7 years 
away in 2030. His view? Medical nanotechnology that will make K. Eric Drexler, 
a happy primate. Perhaps yourself, as well? On the other hand, laws and 
economics will then have to be changed, and you may be forced by eddict to 
pursue income, perhaps off-planet, so as to allow the young folks to have 
gainful employment, IF AI permits this? 
Ray Kurzweil: Enhanced Longevity by 2030 (lifeboat.com)

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Re: Worms that have been dead for over 45,000 years have been brought back to life

2023-07-30 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:15 AM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

* means of survival, so this looks like evidence to me that you may be
> correct? *
>

It's favorable evidence but it doesn't prove that human Cryonics will work,
however it certainly proves that the old cliché that claims freezing and
then thawing a cell always turns it into undifferentiated mush is not
true.  Human Cryonics will be proven to work on the very day it becomes
obsolete and is no longer needed, the day that Drexler style Nanotechnology
becomes available .

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis


)^&



Scientists have brought back to life Nematode worms that have been buried
> 130 feet under the Siberian permafrost for between 45,839 and 47,769  years
> according to Carbon-14 tests. Researchers at the Max Planck Institute in
> Germany have now bred these worms for over 100 generations (worm
> generations are about 10 days long) and they say it is a species of
> Nematode that has never been seen before. They call it "Panagrolaimus
> kolymaensis". The lead researcher says:
>
> *"Basically, you only have to bring the worms into amenable conditions, on
> a culture (agar) plate with some bacteria, some humidity and room
> temperature, they just start crawling around then. They also just start
> reproducing. In this case this is even easier, as it is an all-female
> (asexual) species. They don‘t need to find males and have sex, they just
> start making eggs, which develop."*
>
> A novel nematode species from the Siberian permafrost shares adaptive
> mechanisms for cryptobiotic survival with C. elegans dauer larva
> 
>

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Re: Worms that have been dead for over 45,000 years have been brought back to life

2023-07-29 Thread 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
 You sir, have been something of an enthusiast for the Big Chill as a means of 
survival, so this looks like evidence to me that you may be correct? 
On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 06:30:22 AM EDT, John Clark 
 wrote:  
 
 Scientists have brought back to life Nematode worms that have been buried 130 
feet under the Siberian permafrost for between 45,839 and 47,769  years 
according to Carbon-14 tests. Researchers at the Max Planck Institute in 
Germany have now bred these worms for over 100 generations (worm generations 
are about 10 days long) and they say it is a species of Nematode that has never 
been seen before. They call it "Panagrolaimus kolymaensis". The lead researcher 
says:
"Basically, you only have to bring the worms into amenable conditions, on a 
culture (agar) plate with some bacteria, some humidity and room temperature, 
they just start crawling around then. They also just start reproducing. In this 
case this is even easier, as it is an all-female (asexual) species. They don‘t 
need to find males and have sex, they just start making eggs, which develop."
A novel nematode species from the Siberian permafrost shares adaptive 
mechanisms for cryptobiotic survival with C. elegans dauer larva
John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis8gg

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