Re: continuity - cloning

2009-02-12 Thread Günther Greindl
Jack, As Stathis and Quentin wrote, we have approached the core of the disagreement. You (Jack) seem to have a very quaint idea of personal identity - some kind of essentialism. Strange that you hold that theory and call talk of 1st person/3rd person distinction sloganeering. It seems,

Re: continuity - cloning

2009-02-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Feb 2009, at 05:38, Tom Caylor wrote: But of course you would worry just as much if the clone were replaced by a zombie... I guess that gets back to the distinction between first person and third person. It seems to me that is the problem indeed. At the same time, it seems

Re: continuity - cloning

2009-02-11 Thread Jack Mallah
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: You agree that if one version of me goes to bed tonight and one version of me wakes up tomorrow, then I should expect to wake up tomorrow. But if extra versions of me are manufactured and run today, then switched off when I

Re: continuity - cloning

2009-02-11 Thread Tom Caylor
The effects of have clones is interesting, though, regardless of the sapping strength notion. You would have reason to worry about being killed if there were clones and then a shell game was played with you being mixed up with the clones, and then all of the yous were killed except one. All of

Re: continuity - cloning

2009-02-11 Thread Tom Caylor
But of course you would worry just as much if the clone were replaced by a zombie... I guess that gets back to the distinction between first person and third person. On Feb 11, 9:05 pm, Tom Caylor daddycay...@msn.com wrote: The effects of have clones is interesting, though, regardless of the

Re: continuity - cloning

2009-02-11 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/2/12 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com: --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: You agree that if one version of me goes to bed tonight and one version of me wakes up tomorrow, then I should expect to wake up tomorrow. But if extra versions of me are

Re: continuity - cloning

2009-02-11 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/2/12 Tom Caylor daddycay...@msn.com: The effects of have clones is interesting, though, regardless of the sapping strength notion. You would have reason to worry about being killed if there were clones and then a shell game was played with you being mixed up with the clones, and then