Re: Solar Power Satellites

2023-06-19 Thread 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
 I don't disagree with your summation. At this point we shall continue to 
muddle along with The Fossil, and likely rooftop solar + storage, until someone 
actually produces fail-safe nukes. I am not sure that deep geothermal is 
achievable, or if it will cause quakes? 
On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 05:46:19 AM EDT, John Clark 
 wrote:  
 
 On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 7:21 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List 
 wrote:


 > It is practical from an engineering standpoint. I am a follower of the late, 
 > physics professor Gerry O'Neil, and others who have long, proposed this 
 > technology.

I know, but O'Neil propose that the bulk of the material that would make up a 
Solar Power Satellite would come from lunar material by way of a mass driver 
set up on the moon, that way only light high-value things like advanced 
microchips would need to climb out of Earth's very steep gravity well. I still 
think that if power satellites can ever be made practical it will be by using 
O'Neill's approach, but for some reason most modern advocates want to launch 
everything from the Earth and I don't think that will work.  


> IF, we choose to harvest the ocean winds, we have the promise of about 11 
> times the potential energy produced by our species, during the year 2018. 
> What's the big drawback then?

Environmentalists. If it works they will say it would disrupt wind and ocean 
currents, is ugly, and kills little birdies, and so should be dismantled 
immediately. The only type of large energy project they like are the ones that 
don't work.
John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
jon





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Re: Solar Power Satellites

2023-06-19 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 7:21 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*> It is practical from an engineering standpoint. I am a follower of the
> late, physics professor Gerry O'Neil, and others who have long, proposed
> this technology.*
>

I know, but O'Neil propose that the bulk of the material that would make up
a Solar Power Satellite would come from lunar material by way of a mass
driver set up on the moon, that way only light high-value things like
advanced microchips would need to climb out of Earth's very steep gravity
well. I still think that if power satellites can ever be made practical it
will be by using O'Neill's approach, but for some reason most modern
advocates want to launch everything from the Earth and I don't think that
will work.

*> IF, we choose to harvest the ocean winds, we have the promise of about
> 11 times the potential energy produced by our species, during the year
> 2018. What's the big drawback then?*


Environmentalists. If it works they will say it would disrupt wind and
ocean currents, is ugly, and kills little birdies, and so should be
dismantled immediately. The only type of large energy project they like are
the ones that don't work.

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

jon


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Re: Solar Power Satellites

2023-06-18 Thread 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
 It is practical from an engineering standpoint. I am a follower of the late, 
physics professor Gerry O'Neil, and others who have long, proposed this 
technology. Having stated this, let us never forget the age we live in, for 
Christ's sake! (Expression). 
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I am an enthusiast, for ocean wind power based on a IEA article from October 
2019.This: Offshore Wind Outlook 2019 – Analysis - IEA
IF, we choose to harvest the ocean winds, we have the promise of about 11 times 
the potential energy produced by our species, during the year 2018. What's the 
big drawback then? Well, basically Russia and China shutting down ocean 
platforms with drone submarines. We'll need protection from that attack. Power 
shutdowns could become chronic with this!
 The same with Solar Sats in Geosynchronous orbit. We'll have to make for 
ourselves drone clean-up craft by the thousands, to clear up the swarms of 
debris left from an attack from a hostile. All that shit flying about at fast 
speeds would likely preclude any Space Program by anybody, let alone, power 
sats! Lights out dirty, Иностранец, laowai!!!  
Our age, out of an abundance of caution, precludes doing power sats and maybe 
ocean wind arrays, because of human perversity, and I ain't talking about sex, 
either.  



On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 05:56:40 AM EDT, John Clark 
 wrote:  
 
 This article doesn't contain many details and I'm skeptical they've actually 
made it practical, but I'd love to be proven wrong. However there is one thing 
you can be absolutely certain of, if Solar Power Satellites really can provide 
cheap clean safe reusable power then environmentalists will oppose it with 
every fiber of their being.
First ever beaming of orbital solar power
John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
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Solar Power Satellites

2023-06-14 Thread John Clark
This article doesn't contain many details and I'm skeptical they've
actually made it practical, but I'd love to be proven wrong. However there
is one thing you can be absolutely certain of, if Solar Power Satellites
really can provide cheap clean safe reusable power then environmentalists
will oppose it with every fiber of their being.

First ever beaming of orbital solar power
<https://www.futuretimeline.net/blog/2023/06/13-space-based-solar-power-future-timeline.htm>

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<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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