Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:43 -0400, Michael B. Trausch wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:14 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: Unless something radical happens in the next few weeks to resolve all these problems, I regret to say that this Ubuntu Long-Term Support release will not be anywhere close to ready to deploy in an enterprise environment. I completely agree. I know of myself and at least two others running Hardy with Evolution Exchange backend and it is unusable because the exchange backend keeps dying. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 08:08 -0700, George Farris wrote: I completely agree. I know of myself and at least two others running Hardy with Evolution Exchange backend and it is unusable because the exchange backend keeps dying. Are you on 32bit or 64bit systems? Do you have multiple CPUs? It really confuses me, because as I said I've been using my makefile ( http://mad-scientist.us/evolution.html ) to build from SVN on my Gutsy system, and it runs _great_. I can't figure out what's different about Hardy that's causing this problem. -- - Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://make.mad-scientist.us Please remain calm--I may be mad, but I am a professional.--Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] cleaning up the timezone handling mess
On Mo, 2008-04-07 at 23:40 -0600, P Chenthill wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 19:45 +0200, Patrick Ohly wrote: One could argue that the sending program is at fault: it could have used a different TZID after changing the timezone definition. Alternatively it could have sent a more complex VTIMEZONE which also includes the historic rules. I believe both causes other problems in practice. Speculating about it is futile anyway and won't change the meeting invitations that Evolution has to deal with. Besides, don't blame Outlook too much: Evolution = 1.12 now does exactly the same thing. For example, a meeting invitation now uses /softwarestudio.org/Tzfile/America/Los_Angeles and only includes the current rules for daylight saving transitions. It just includes the current rules for outlook compatibility. Yep, that's the I believe both causes other problems in practice part ;-) I am just back after a small vacation. Ah, that explains the silence. I'll be away over the weekend and Monday myself and don't know whether I'll have time before I came back. I dont think anyone is work on this issue currently. I made a patch for exchange backend for solving this issue long time back. But unfortunately its not committed in trunk. Why? Technical issues that I should be aware of? It uses a timestamp in the VTIMEZONE file to store the latest one always. By this way we would also know the last time period when the timezone has been changed for that location. I can't claim to understand the patch or the code that it applies to. When you say that only the latest VTIMEZONE is stored, that implies that only one is stored, right? How does that solve the problem of having an event in the calendar which depends on an old revision of the VTIMEZONE and another one which needs the current revision? I am ok with handling using the sequence numbers. I am not sure whether a new libecal API would be needed to solve this, since the timezones would be handled at the backend. The client adds the VTIMEZONE and some time later the corresponding event. At that time the backend won't be able to correlate the two, but that is necessary to change the TZID in the event if the VTIMEZONE was stored with a different TZID. Only the client can do that. It would be better to handle all the timezones in a common place inside EDS. The reason for that is, same timezones can exist in multiple calendars which could not be matched to either system timezone or through the fuzzy logic. Currently it is handled separately for every calendar and the same information is stored redundantly. Another issue which should be taken care of is, the system timezones should not be stored in the cache. They should always be taken from the libical builtin timezone. Please consider these too while implementing the solution. That's way beyond what I have time for, sorry. Besides, I want to keep my changes as small as possible to increase the chance of getting them into the stable branch. -- Bye, Patrick Ohly -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.estamos.de/ ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 13:15 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: I can't figure out what's different about Hardy that's causing this problem. There was a major update to Hardy today that included all parts of Evolution, including e-d-s and evolution-exchange. The bugs listed there looked very serious: freeing null pointers and other really unpleasant things. There haven't been any changes to the gnome-2-22 branch in SVN for anything like this in quite a while, so I'm not sure where these fixes came from (or maybe more accurately, where the previous, unfixed versions came from). After the upgrade my Evo in Hardy was stable and responsive for an hour or two before I had to come home (but, now my system doesn't recognize the proper screen size for my LCD monitor... but that's another story). I'm not ready to call it fixed quite yet, but if you haven't updated lately you should do so, then see if things are any better for you. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.mad-scientist.us Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional. --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 20:54 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: There was a major update to Hardy today that included all parts of Evolution, including e-d-s and evolution-exchange. The bugs listed there looked very serious: freeing null pointers and other really unpleasant things. There haven't been any changes to the gnome-2-22 branch in SVN for anything like this in quite a while, so I'm not sure where these fixes came from (or maybe more accurately, where the previous, unfixed versions came from). The fixes came from upstream indeed. They are fixes that were committed from about March 10th to April 7th (i.e., from the 2.22.00 release to 2.22.1). Additionally, the Ubuntu 2.22.1 change logs ([1], [2], and [3]) list the bugzilla fixes included on 2.22.1. The Ubuntu/Debian specific fixes are listed in the source packages, under ./debian/patches; a quick look there did not show me anything we added off upstream that would address the memory corruption, etc. I'm not ready to call it fixed quite yet, but if you haven't updated lately you should do so, then see if things are any better for you. Anyway, of course, for Ubuntu we do recommend you run the up-to-date versions -- remember we are still beta on Hardy 8.04. I have been busy lately but, to my (dim) remembering, the only critical issue we still have left on Evo for Hardy is the E-D-S loop on startup ([4] for Ubuntu, [5] for bugzilla). Regards, ..hggdh.. [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-April/010564.html [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-April/010569.html [3] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-April/010588.html [4] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/151536 [5] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518524 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 04:03 +0200, HggdH wrote: The fixes came from upstream indeed. They are fixes that were committed from about March 10th to April 7th (i.e., from the 2.22.00 release to 2.22.1). OK, gotcha. I incorrectly assumed that 2.22.1 was already in Hardy. I'll give it a good workout tomorrow and make sure it's stable. -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.mad-scientist.us Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional. --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] Building Evo SVN on Ubuntu Hardy
Hello, I used Paul Smith's Makefile ([1]) to build Evolution on Ubuntu Hardy (by the way, the easiest way to build evo from SVN I have seen so far...). The original Makefile does not address Hardy (stops at Gutsy), so I made a quick patch for it. I did not stop to check the prereqs, but Gutsy prereqs seem to work on Hardy; there may be others, but my system is already set to development, and might already have them. YMMV. If you are interested, I have attached the patch here. Thanks to Paul for setting this up in the first place. ..hggdh.. [1] http://mad-scientist.us/evolution.html --- Makefile.orig 2008-02-28 04:52:49.0 +0100 +++ Makefile 2008-04-09 04:44:46.0 +0200 @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@ # successful build are installed. The currently supported distros are # listed in the DISTROS variable below. # If yours is not one of these, set this to empty and take your chances! -DISTRO := gutsy +DISTRO := hardy # Comment this out if you don't want to use ccache CCACHE := ccache @@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ # These are the prerequisite packages needed on the system before we can build # Evo. There are different ways to check for them, based on distro. -DISTROS := feisty gutsy etch +DISTROS := feisty gutsy hardy etch feisty-PREREQS := \ gtk-doc-tools subversion flex bison build-essential \ @@ -105,6 +105,12 @@ libgail-dev evolution-dev icon-naming-utils libdbus-glib-1-dev \ $(CCACHE) +hardy-PREREQS := \ + gtk-doc-tools subversion flex bison build-essential \ + libssl-dev libldap2-dev libnss3-dev libnspr4-dev \ + libgail-dev evolution-dev icon-naming-utils libdbus-glib-1-dev \ + $(CCACHE) + etch-PREREQS := \ gtk-doc-tools subversion flex bison build-essential \ libssl-dev libldap2-dev libnss3-dev libnspr4-dev \ @@ -461,7 +467,7 @@ $(ECHO) Or to force a build, set 'distro' empty in the makefile.; \ exit 1 -check-prereqs-gutsy check-prereqs-feisty check-prereqs-etch: check-prereqs-%: +check-prereqs-hardy check-prereqs-gutsy check-prereqs-feisty check-prereqs-etch: check-prereqs-%: @log=/tmp/evo-chk-prereqs. \ $(RM) $$log \ $(TOUCH) $$log \ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
