Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution 2.28 obsolete?

2011-01-27 Thread Christian Hilberg
Hi Matt,

On Thu 27 January 2011 Matt Davey wrote:
 I'm not sure this is the right list, as this is more of a policy
 question than a dev question.
 
 I recently logged a bug (#639970) that crops up every now and again for
 me, and it was closed as OBSOLETE because I raised it against Evolution
 2.28.  This surprised me, because this 2.28 is the current shipping
 version for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Long Term Support).
 [...]

For the unpleasant but real truth, see Pauls answer.

As a quick workaround, however, if your own/company/whatever policy permits, 
you could try and install Evo 2.30.3 from the PPA

https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/evo230

and see whether it solves your problem.

But be aware, that
- Evo 2.30 is as obsolete as 2.28 is
- while Jacob does a nice job providing Evo 2.30 for Ubuntu 10.04,
  this version is neither supported by Upstream, nor by Ubuntu,
  so no more fixes will go into currently provided 2.30.3, unless there
  would be a 2.30.4 release by the Evo maintainers (chances are as
  close to zero as you can imagine).

Just 2 cent,

Christian

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution 2.28 obsolete?

2011-01-27 Thread Thomas Mittelstaedt
Am Donnerstag, den 27.01.2011, 16:04 + schrieb Matt Davey:
 I'm not sure this is the right list, as this is more of a policy
 question than a dev question.
 
 I recently logged a bug (#639970) that crops up every now and again for
 me, and it was closed as OBSOLETE because I raised it against Evolution
 2.28.  This surprised me, because this 2.28 is the current shipping
 version for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Long Term Support).
 
 Now, you could argue that:
   a) the gnome/evo team can't be blamed for Ubuntu shipping an obsolete
  version,
   b) the gnome/evo team simply doesn't have the resources to maintain
  older versions, so it's reasonable to mark older trees unsupported
  pretty quickly, and
   c) Ubuntu should be responsible for fixing the problem, or upgrade to
  v2.30 or whatever
 
 I think these are good arguments from the point of view of the
 developer, but it's not good news for the user, and it's hard for the
 average user to distinguish Ubuntu from Gnome in this situation.
 
 I'm not sure what the solution is, but if 2.28 cannot be maintained it
 would still have felt less frustrating and more reasonable if:
   a) I'd been told whether the bug was a known bug and has been fixed in
 a more recent version of evo.  This would potentially give a route for
 downstream to port a bug fix, or to contribute a 2.28 patch.
   b) If it's not a known bug, it might have made sense to recommend I
 report this to Ubuntu rather than Gnome, and why.
 
 I really like the long term release model for my work machine, and
 Evolution is critical.  It's not a great feeling to know that it's an
 obsolete version.
 
 Just my two cents.
 
 Matt
 

I'd suggest to you to build version 2.32 from git source on your ubuntu
LTS. See
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2010-November/msg4.html and
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2010-November/msg5.html.
If you are not familiar with building software from source, I or maybe a
few others on this list could assist you.

If you would like to continue to use version 2.28 as I do currently, you
may check out the patches I use at
http://www.t-mittelstaedt.de/evo-patches-2-28.tar.gz
and http://www.t-mittelstaedt.de/evo-eds-patches-2-28.tar.gz
for evolution and evolution-data-server, respectively. You need
a software called stacked git, stg, to apply them. It is available 
with ubuntu. 

Hope, that helps,
 

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thomas


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution 2.28 obsolete?

2011-01-27 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven., 2011-01-28 at 02:06 +0100, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote:
 I'd suggest to you to build version 2.32 from git source on your ubuntu
 LTS. See
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2010-November/msg4.html and
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2010-November/msg5.html.
 If you are not familiar with building software from source, I or maybe a
 few others on this list could assist you. 

Note that it's not really a solution for people usually concerned by an
LTS distro.

Regards,
-- 
Yves-Alexis


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