Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution plugin with Mono

2007-08-20 Thread Jacob Johnny
On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 23:49 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 20:10 +0200, Manuel de la Pena wrote:
  Hi guys,
  
  I'm currently developing and application that I want to interact with  
  evolution, specially with the contacts storage. I'm using Mono to  
  develop the application and I was wondering there has been some work  
  done regarding a mono and evolution integration in some way or I  
  should use c as explained in http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ 
  developer-doc/eplugin/
 
 At the moment, the mono-plugin-loader is untested and is experimental.
 It is planned to improve it for 2.14  So, at the moment, using C is the
 only option.
 
 What will your app. do ? You may need to use EDS APIs than write a
 plugin for Evo. if your app. wants to search/fetch the contacts.

Evolution Sharp (C# Bindings for EDS) can be used for this.

 
  
  Thanks in advance :)
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution plugin with Mono

2007-08-20 Thread Manuel de la Pena
Hi,

I can define the application as a self updating address-book, where  
the data of the contacts can be modified b y the contact themselves,  
this is aiming to solve the problem of sharing contact information  
when we have contacts that are not from a company or that do not have  
place in a LDAP, in other ways is a RDB with  strong business rules.

Currently the local copy of the contacts information is stored in a  
sqlite database and I was planing to develop a plugin to fetch the  
contacts from there to evolution, since implementing the LDAP  
protocol on-top of the server daemon seems to be to much work, at  
least for a first version. I would relllay apreciate any ideas to  
solve the problem, although seems that using c is the strongest and  
easiest answer at the moment.

Thaks :)


On 20/08/2007, at 10:06, Jacob Johnny wrote:

 On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 23:49 -0600, Sankar P wrote:

 On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 20:10 +0200, Manuel de la Pena wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I'm currently developing and application that I want to interact  
 with
 evolution, specially with the contacts storage. I'm using Mono to
 develop the application and I was wondering there has been some work
 done regarding a mono and evolution integration in some way or I
 should use c as explained in http://www.gnome.org/projects/ 
 evolution/
 developer-doc/eplugin/


 At the moment, the mono-plugin-loader is untested and is  
 experimental.
 It is planned to improve it for 2.14  So, at the moment, using C  
 is the
 only option.

 What will your app. do ? You may need to use EDS APIs than write a
 plugin for Evo. if your app. wants to search/fetch the contacts.


 Evolution Sharp (C# Bindings for EDS) can be used for this.





 Thanks in advance :)
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution plugin with Mono

2007-08-20 Thread Sankar P
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 12:01 +0200, Manuel de la Pena wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I can define the application as a self updating address-book, where  
 the data of the contacts can be modified b y the contact themselves,  
 this is aiming to solve the problem of sharing contact information  
 when we have contacts that are not from a company or that do not have  
 place in a LDAP, in other ways is a RDB with  strong business rules.
 
 Currently the local copy of the contacts information is stored in a  
 sqlite database

I am not understanding the full picture of the problem that you are
trying to solve. 

How are these contacts created ? You use a separate application to
create these contacts ? And where is this DB running ? What other
applications in addition to Evo. will make use of these contacts ? 

Will it be not sufficient if you just setup a LDAP server with no
access-restrictions so that each user can create his own contacts ?

Since LDAP is a standard protocol, many clients will already implement
it. you can just start using Evo. without writing any code; if you have
such a setup. 

However, 


  and I was planing to develop a plugin to fetch the  
 contacts from there to evolution, since implementing the LDAP  
 protocol on-top of the server daemon seems to be to much work, at  
 least for a first version. I would relllay apreciate any ideas to  
 solve the problem, although seems that using c is the strongest and  
 easiest answer at the moment.

... If you have a look at evolution/plugins/bbdb you can find code to
sync Evolution's personal addressbook with gaim. You just need to copy
and fit it to your server's needs, instead of gaim/pidgin.

 Thaks :)
 
 
 On 20/08/2007, at 10:06, Jacob Johnny wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 23:49 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 20:10 +0200, Manuel de la Pena wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  I'm currently developing and application that I want to interact  
  with
  evolution, specially with the contacts storage. I'm using Mono to
  develop the application and I was wondering there has been some work
  done regarding a mono and evolution integration in some way or I
  should use c as explained in http://www.gnome.org/projects/ 
  evolution/
  developer-doc/eplugin/
 
 
  At the moment, the mono-plugin-loader is untested and is  
  experimental.
  It is planned to improve it for 2.14  So, at the moment, using C  
  is the
  only option.
 
  What will your app. do ? You may need to use EDS APIs than write a
  plugin for Evo. if your app. wants to search/fetch the contacts.
 
 
  Evolution Sharp (C# Bindings for EDS) can be used for this.
 
 
 
 
 
  Thanks in advance :)
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution plugin with Mono

2007-08-20 Thread Manuel de la Pena
Hi,

The full picture of the application is the following one:

I'm currently implementing Kerberos as a way to control the personal  
information in a database, that is, I'm using the concept of ticket  
to  allow the different users to control who (other users of the  
system) is going to be allowed to view their contact information,  
(unless I've got it wrong if I used LDAP those kind of business rules  
cannot be implemented directly on the LDAP), this platform will allow  
to manage contacts as the way it is done with im protocols, where you  
add different relations with different users, but in this case the  
platform allows to have a control over the information the other  
users can view. I pretend to solve the problem where companies have  
to check if the information they have of their clients is the correct  
one or when you move or change your telephone number to have to tell  
all your contacts with a sms or an email. This way the user has  
control of his information and can update his data in other people  
address book.

Currently the main db is running in a server with a daemon that  
notifies of the different changes to all your contacts every time  
you change your data. I have developed a client that is working on  
Windows, Linux (Mono) and Window Mobile and I want to create plugins  
for all those email clients that allow to manage contacts such as  
outlook, thunderbird and evolution. The only requirement to use the  
application is to have a user name and it provides the following  
features:

Allow tag contact information such as work, home etc...
Allow to tag other users such as: friends, family, etc..
Sync of address-book between systems of contacts that are not in the  
system (.Mac style)
Auto update of contact data of all those contacts that are part of  
the system.
Management of groups.
Use of kerberos ticket idea to control the information that the  
other users can view such as just phone number, etc.. You can also  
create the tickets by using tags.
Export import vcards.
Sync with windows mobile throw ative sync (Windows only)

I hope the I have explained the idea in a way it can be understand.

On 20/08/2007, at 13:01, Sankar P wrote:

 On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 12:01 +0200, Manuel de la Pena wrote:
 Hi,

 I can define the application as a self updating address-book, where
 the data of the contacts can be modified b y the contact themselves,
 this is aiming to solve the problem of sharing contact information
 when we have contacts that are not from a company or that do not have
 place in a LDAP, in other ways is a RDB with  strong business rules.

 Currently the local copy of the contacts information is stored in a
 sqlite database

 I am not understanding the full picture of the problem that you are
 trying to solve.

 How are these contacts created ? You use a separate application to
 create these contacts ? And where is this DB running ? What other
 applications in addition to Evo. will make use of these contacts ?

 Will it be not sufficient if you just setup a LDAP server with no
 access-restrictions so that each user can create his own contacts ?

 Since LDAP is a standard protocol, many clients will already implement
 it. you can just start using Evo. without writing any code; if you  
 have
 such a setup.

 However, 


  and I was planing to develop a plugin to fetch the
 contacts from there to evolution, since implementing the LDAP
 protocol on-top of the server daemon seems to be to much work, at
 least for a first version. I would relllay apreciate any ideas to
 solve the problem, although seems that using c is the strongest and
 easiest answer at the moment.

 ... If you have a look at evolution/plugins/bbdb you can find code to
 sync Evolution's personal addressbook with gaim. You just need to copy
 and fit it to your server's needs, instead of gaim/pidgin.

 Thaks :)


 On 20/08/2007, at 10:06, Jacob Johnny wrote:

 On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 23:49 -0600, Sankar P wrote:

 On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 20:10 +0200, Manuel de la Pena wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I'm currently developing and application that I want to interact
 with
 evolution, specially with the contacts storage. I'm using Mono to
 develop the application and I was wondering there has been some  
 work
 done regarding a mono and evolution integration in some way or I
 should use c as explained in http://www.gnome.org/projects/
 evolution/
 developer-doc/eplugin/


 At the moment, the mono-plugin-loader is untested and is
 experimental.
 It is planned to improve it for 2.14  So, at the moment, using C
 is the
 only option.

 What will your app. do ? You may need to use EDS APIs than write a
 plugin for Evo. if your app. wants to search/fetch the contacts.


 Evolution Sharp (C# Bindings for EDS) can be used for this.





 Thanks in advance :)
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