Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Sankar P
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:24 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> > > >  * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
> > > 
> > > Evolution has support to attach FACE header while sending e-mails and
> > > extract the header while receiving and show it in the preview pane.
> > > http://bp3.blogger.com/_G_VBnbGWMzs/Rpy_2WCctrI/BGo/qWewaum0Z-A/s1600-h/ZFace.jpg
> > 
> > How can I tell evolution to use a particular image when I send emails? I
> > don't see this in the preferences.
> Currently you can do it from Insert->Face in the composer window. It was
> supposed to have a preferences as part of plugin configuration. But I
> dont think it made it to svn.
> 
> Sankar, am I right?

Yes. You are.

You need to use Inset->Face in the composer window. 

A few more things are still pending for this plugin. User should be able
to set a photo from plugin-configure. The plugin should also support
resizing the photo by itself. I did some of these changes but missed the
freeze dead-line. So all these can go only after branching for Evo-2.14
is done.

Matthew: 
I was not aware of the ~/.face thing. I will try to use it in the next
release (after the freeze is over).


> -Srini
> > 
> > > Evolution can also fetch the image of the sender from addressbook and
> > > show it in the preview pane.
> > > http://gnomebangalore.org/~sragavan/2.12/contact-image.png
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:37 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
> 
> 
> Shouldn't it read from ~/.face by default, so that it's nicely
> integrated with the "About Me" app?
It was Sankar's hackweek idea project. I really don't remember the full
details of it. Off to you Sankar. I remeber saying Sankar that there
should be a default photo and a over-rid-able option as well. Dont
know/think if that made it.

-Srini.
> 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:24 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> Currently you can do it from Insert->Face in the composer window. It was
> supposed to have a preferences as part of plugin configuration. But I
> dont think it made it to svn.

Shouldn't it read from ~/.face by default, so that it's nicely
integrated with the "About Me" app?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> > >  * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
> > 
> > Evolution has support to attach FACE header while sending e-mails and
> > extract the header while receiving and show it in the preview pane.
> > http://bp3.blogger.com/_G_VBnbGWMzs/Rpy_2WCctrI/BGo/qWewaum0Z-A/s1600-h/ZFace.jpg
> 
> How can I tell evolution to use a particular image when I send emails? I
> don't see this in the preferences.
Currently you can do it from Insert->Face in the composer window. It was
supposed to have a preferences as part of plugin configuration. But I
dont think it made it to svn.

Sankar, am I right?

-Srini
> 
> > Evolution can also fetch the image of the sender from addressbook and
> > show it in the preview pane.
> > http://gnomebangalore.org/~sragavan/2.12/contact-image.png
> 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:07 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > Calendar search interface provides support for advanced search similar
> > to mail and addressbook. The searches can also be saved and edited.
> > The Show options provides quick access to Next 7 days' appointments and
> > Active appointments.
> 
> Where can I see these "Show options" in the UI?

If you're running Evolution 2.11.90, it's right above the main calendar,
similar to where the "Show" combo box is on the Mail component (although
it looks like we have a padding issue around it).

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> >  * Calendar Search improvements
> 
> Calendar search interface provides support for advanced search similar
> to mail and addressbook. The searches can also be saved and edited.
> The
> Show options provides quick access to Next 7 days' appointments and
> Active appointments.

Where can I see these "Show options" in the UI?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> >  * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
> 
> Evolution has support to attach FACE header while sending e-mails and
> extract the header while receiving and show it in the preview pane.
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_G_VBnbGWMzs/Rpy_2WCctrI/BGo/qWewaum0Z-A/s1600-h/ZFace.jpg

How can I tell evolution to use a particular image when I send emails? I
don't see this in the preferences.

> Evolution can also fetch the image of the sender from addressbook and
> show it in the preview pane.
> http://gnomebangalore.org/~sragavan/2.12/contact-image.png


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:18 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:15 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:32 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> > > Hey Murray,
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 18:36 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > > > Evolution developers, please do try to find the time for this. You
> > > > deserve that the world knows about your hard work.
> > > >  
> > >  I have added everything to release notes wiki page. Sorry, I was
> > > confused with
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-July/msg00173.html 
> > > and just updated to Roadmap only.
> > 
> > Thanks. I didn't realise that you had updated the RoadMap. Not everybody
> > has done that.
> > 
> > So, we have the following:
> > 
> > > * Improved SPAM filtering with plugable junk filters 
> > 
> > How is this different to before, from the user's point of view? I
> > thought we always had SpamAssassin and BogoFilter plugins.
> > 
> > > * Backup restore support
> > 
> > What does this actually allow the user to do?
> > 
> > > * Improved e-mail notification 
> > 
> > Is this just about the notification area icon? By the way, I notice that
> > you can't turn that off from the main preferences - you have to disable
> > the plugin, when you know that it's a plugin.
> > 
> > > * Improved Gtk+ Printing support for mails 
> > 
> > What does the "improvement" look like to the user?
> > 
> > > * System Timezone Integration 
> > 
> > Does this mean that evolution no longer asks the user for their timezone
> > at first use? Are there any other user-noticeable changes?
> > 
> > > * Attachment reminder for message composer
> > 
> > Could you tell us more about this? What does it do, and when?
> > 
> > > * Evolution Exchange
> > >  * Better offline support
> > 
> > How is this noticeable? Is it just a performance improvement, or has the
> > behaviour changed? I mean, how would the user notice this?
> > >  * Delegation support
> > 
> > This allows you to forward your emails to a colleague while you are
> > away, right? Do you have a screenshot of that preference for us, using
> > the standard clearlooks theme? Not many of us are running exchange.
> 
> And these items were just added:
> "
>  * Magic space bar support
>  * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
>  * Calendar Search improvements
> "
> 
> They really need details so we can describe what the user will
> experience differently to the old evolution version.
Sure. I was in the process of adding it and your mail came down :)

-Srini.
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:15 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:32 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> > Hey Murray,
> > 
> > On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 18:36 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > > Evolution developers, please do try to find the time for this. You
> > > deserve that the world knows about your hard work.
> > >  
> >  I have added everything to release notes wiki page. Sorry, I was
> > confused with
> > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-July/msg00173.html 
> > and just updated to Roadmap only.
> 
> Thanks. I didn't realise that you had updated the RoadMap. Not everybody
> has done that.
NP. I had done the day it was on d-d-l.
> 
> So, we have the following:
> 
> > * Improved SPAM filtering with plugable junk filters 
> 
> How is this different to before, from the user's point of view? I
> thought we always had SpamAssassin and BogoFilter plugins.

Earlier, just SpamAssassin plugin was packaged and now even bogofilter
is also shipped by default with Evolution. In the preferences window,
users can choose which spam/junk filter they want to use and some nice
SPAM options too available. With 2.12 Evolution can train SpamAssasin or
Bogofilter with the 'Junk' (SPAM) and 'Not Junk' (HAM).
> 
> > * Backup restore support
> 
> What does this actually allow the user to do?

Users can archive/backup entire Evolution mails/setting and restore it
on a different/same machine.
http://gnomebangalore.org/~sragavan/2.12/evo_restore.png shows that you
can also restore from the startup assistant. 

> 
> > * Improved e-mail notification 

> Is this just about the notification area icon? By the way, I notice that
> you can't turn that off from the main preferences - you have to disable
> the plugin, when you know that it's a plugin.
Yes. It is written as a plugin and you have to disable the plugin to
disable it. 
> 
> > * Improved Gtk+ Printing support for mails 
> 
> What does the "improvement" look like to the user?

You have a nice page setup and can print selected range. Most (all -
AFAIK)of the Gtk+ print options are supported in mail printing like
collate, two-sided etc.

> 
> > * System Timezone Integration 
> 
> Does this mean that evolution no longer asks the user for their timezone
> at first use? Are there any other user-noticeable changes?

You don't have to update Evolution when there is a DST change. Evolution
picks up the timezone information from the system default timezone
database/category. 

> 
> > * Attachment reminder for message composer
> 
> Could you tell us more about this? What does it do, and when?
It reminding you of a missing attachment in case you are sending a mail.
When you compose a message, it searches for some predefined strings and
popups up a attachment warning.
http://gnomebangalore.org/~sragavan/2.12/attachment-reminder.png
These strings are configurable and comes with a default-set that works
mostly for English. Locale specific strings needed to be added by the
user atm. Again, this is a Plugin and needs to be enabled/disabled in
the plugins and the configuration is also in the plugins dialog only.

> 
> > * Evolution Exchange
> >  * Better offline support

> How is this noticeable? Is it just a performance improvement, or has the
> behaviour changed? I mean, how would the user notice this?
Yes noticeable. The message list is filled up with cache, before
getting/updating messages from the server. So that the user can read
messages from the cache, while the fetching is happening in the
background. This is the case with all Evolution providers and just made
it the same way for Exchange also. 

> >  * Delegation support

It is like making someone act on behalf of you. You can give permissions
and you can act on behalf of the user in Evolution. I will send you the
screenshots in a day. I don't have a working setup atm.

> 
Some new things I have added recently to the wiki...


> * Magic space bar support
One key to read mails in all folders. With just the space bar key, the
user can scroll the message preview window. When the preview window
reaches the bottom, on next 'space bar' it selects the next unread mail
in the same folder if not, it wraps down the message list. When all the
mails are read, the focus is moved to the next folder. In this fashion,
with just space-bar you can read all the unread mails in you entire
Evolution folder hierarchy. 

>  * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane

Evolution has support to attach FACE header while sending e-mails and
extract the header while receiving and show it in the preview pane.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_G_VBnbGWMzs/Rpy_2WCctrI/BGo/qWewaum0Z-A/s1600-h/ZFace.jpg

Evolution can also fetch the image of the sender from addressbook and
show it in the preview pane.
http://gnomebangalore.org/~sragavan/2.12/contact-image.png


>  * Calendar Search improvements

Calendar search interface provides support for advanced search similar
to mail and addressbook. The searches can also be saved and edi

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:15 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:32 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> > Hey Murray,
> > 
> > On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 18:36 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > > Evolution developers, please do try to find the time for this. You
> > > deserve that the world knows about your hard work.
> > >  
> >  I have added everything to release notes wiki page. Sorry, I was
> > confused with
> > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-July/msg00173.html 
> > and just updated to Roadmap only.
> 
> Thanks. I didn't realise that you had updated the RoadMap. Not everybody
> has done that.
> 
> So, we have the following:
> 
> > * Improved SPAM filtering with plugable junk filters 
> 
> How is this different to before, from the user's point of view? I
> thought we always had SpamAssassin and BogoFilter plugins.
> 
> > * Backup restore support
> 
> What does this actually allow the user to do?
> 
> > * Improved e-mail notification 
> 
> Is this just about the notification area icon? By the way, I notice that
> you can't turn that off from the main preferences - you have to disable
> the plugin, when you know that it's a plugin.
> 
> > * Improved Gtk+ Printing support for mails 
> 
> What does the "improvement" look like to the user?
> 
> > * System Timezone Integration 
> 
> Does this mean that evolution no longer asks the user for their timezone
> at first use? Are there any other user-noticeable changes?
> 
> > * Attachment reminder for message composer
> 
> Could you tell us more about this? What does it do, and when?
> 
> > * Evolution Exchange
> >  * Better offline support
> 
> How is this noticeable? Is it just a performance improvement, or has the
> behaviour changed? I mean, how would the user notice this?
> >  * Delegation support
> 
> This allows you to forward your emails to a colleague while you are
> away, right? Do you have a screenshot of that preference for us, using
> the standard clearlooks theme? Not many of us are running exchange.

And these items were just added:
"
 * Magic space bar support
 * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
 * Calendar Search improvements
"

They really need details so we can describe what the user will
experience differently to the old evolution version.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:32 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> Hey Murray,
> 
> On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 18:36 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > Evolution developers, please do try to find the time for this. You
> > deserve that the world knows about your hard work.
> >  
>  I have added everything to release notes wiki page. Sorry, I was
> confused with
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-July/msg00173.html and 
> just updated to Roadmap only.

Thanks. I didn't realise that you had updated the RoadMap. Not everybody
has done that.

So, we have the following:

> * Improved SPAM filtering with plugable junk filters 

How is this different to before, from the user's point of view? I
thought we always had SpamAssassin and BogoFilter plugins.

> * Backup restore support

What does this actually allow the user to do?

> * Improved e-mail notification 

Is this just about the notification area icon? By the way, I notice that
you can't turn that off from the main preferences - you have to disable
the plugin, when you know that it's a plugin.

> * Improved Gtk+ Printing support for mails 

What does the "improvement" look like to the user?

> * System Timezone Integration 

Does this mean that evolution no longer asks the user for their timezone
at first use? Are there any other user-noticeable changes?

> * Attachment reminder for message composer

Could you tell us more about this? What does it do, and when?

> * Evolution Exchange
>  * Better offline support

How is this noticeable? Is it just a performance improvement, or has the
behaviour changed? I mean, how would the user notice this?
>  * Delegation support

This allows you to forward your emails to a colleague while you are
away, right? Do you have a screenshot of that preference for us, using
the standard clearlooks theme? Not many of us are running exchange.

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