On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 23:55 -0400, IGnatius T Foobar wrote:
Patrick Ohly wrote:
In the upstream libical certain functions return char * pointers into
memory stored in ring buffers. The caller must not free those pointers.
The drawback is that the life time of those strings is not predictable.
In the current Evolution libical, those same functions (not renamed!)
return copies of the string which the caller has to free. Code which was
written using the old semantic of the calls will leak memory. Code
adapted to the new semantic (like Evolution) will crash when combined
with the upstream libical without the same patch.
Ok, I definitely see the benefit there. This is similar to POSIX calls
which now offer alternative versions (usually with _r appended to the
name) that don't use a static buffer or a ring buffer, in order to be
If all users of the upstream libical are willing to adapt their code,
then the best solution would be to simply import the Evolution patch
As much as I'd like to see that happen, I don't think it's realistic.
libical is used by dozens of downstream projects, and a sudden forced
API change is likely to encourage them to fork (or stay forked, if
they've already done so) -- exactly the opposite of the end we are
trying to achieve!
If there is resistance against that, then we could provide two versions
of each of these API calls: one with the old name and old behavior and
one with the new behavior and a name suffix.
That seems more realistic. The alternative might be to offer a global
flag that tells libical to behave one way or the other? (I think
something like that was suggested at some point.)
While I definitely think the new method of memory allocation makes far
more sense (we'll definitely use it in Citadel, as all of our code is
multithreaded) -- expecting the entire community to perform a flag day
API change in lockstep is likely to cause confusion and delay. If we
pursued either the alternate function names or the global flag, is there
likely to be any pushback from the Evolution team?
I do not feel having alternate function names would be a better
Consider the following API which remains the same before and after the
char * icalcomponent_as_ical_string (icalcomponent *icomp);
The returned memory from this API was internally handled by libical
before and now its given to the caller. Though the return type gives an
indication that the memory is owned by caller, it was not the case. So
having a new API for this and changing the behavior does not look to be
a good solution since the underlying memory allocation had to be
Similarly even with other APIs which return const char* values, the
memory can be overwritten at any time. While removing the ring buffer
return type's of all the APIs had to be changed from const char * to
char *. Is it really worth it to have the old unstable APIs which can
crash the application randomly ? My answer would be NO.
This is not just a problem with multi-threaded programs. The crash could
happen once the ring buffer gets full and starts overwriting the used
Since we statically link to libical and expose it via libecal, we have
updated the library versions of libecal. We have an additional flag
check (hack) also for it now with a warning as in
So it is better to inform all the stake holders about the change and let
them depend on the library versions to decide whether to free the memory
or not if they have a need to depend on the older versions of libical. I
think no one deny to make the necessary changes knowing that the old API
is not very stable.
Atleast once I noticed the problem. I made this patch and made all the
changes required in evolution, evolution-exchange and
evolution-data-server. I would not really like to change them again with
new APIS :)
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