Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org
Am including nirav in the thread. He is working on with the novell IST to get the required rights. He would be able to provide more details.. Thanks, Chenthill. On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 11:06 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: I don't know how feasible this is, but what do you guys think about eventually migrating the wiki to live.gnome.org/evolution. I am all for it. I have no idea who has admin rights to the wiki According to Parag Srini has sysop rights. andre ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org
Hi Andre, Migrating Wiki to live.gnome.org/evolution may be difficult with the high data content that evolution wiki holds. I would believe that installing captcha and updating drupple should be able to provide the desired results.I am working with Novell IST and hope to have something positive in next few days. Regards Nirav On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 12:06 +0530, Chenthill wrote: Am including nirav in the thread. He is working on with the novell IST to get the required rights. He would be able to provide more details.. Thanks, Chenthill. On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 11:06 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: I don't know how feasible this is, but what do you guys think about eventually migrating the wiki to live.gnome.org/evolution. I am all for it. I have no idea who has admin rights to the wiki According to Parag Srini has sysop rights. andre ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Nirav Kumarkni...@novell.com wrote: Hi Andre, Migrating Wiki to live.gnome.org/evolution may be difficult with the high data content that evolution wiki holds. I don't see a high data content. There are Camel docs, plugin docs, some design docs about shell and threading, most of which will have to change anyway, soon. And most of the other links originating from the go-evolution home page points to obsolete contents. There are some test cases, but iirc they are stored in Novell testopia already. I would believe that installing captcha and updating drupple should be able to provide the desired results.I am working with Novell IST and hope to have something positive in next few days. These two are the problems at the moment. But by moving to live.gnome.org, there are other benefits like: - we align more with the rest of the Gnome projects - one place to search docs for all projects and easy to link to docs of other project pages, say libsoup. - no need to create yet-another-new-account to edit evo project pages. anyone with a gnome account can edit pages. and above all, - Gnome sysadmins are easily reachable for non-Novell folks to report and rectify any problems, than Novell IST. There will be a single point of contact for admin related issues. If all these does not convince you, you can save dollars on the storage space for the site ;-) . So imho, it is definitely worth moving to live.gnome.org . Regards Nirav On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 12:06 +0530, Chenthill wrote: Am including nirav in the thread. He is working on with the novell IST to get the required rights. He would be able to provide more details.. Thanks, Chenthill. On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 11:06 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: I don't know how feasible this is, but what do you guys think about eventually migrating the wiki to live.gnome.org/evolution. I am all for it. I have no idea who has admin rights to the wiki According to Parag Srini has sysop rights. andre ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] Question about e-shell-settings-dialog
Hi all,I'm running Evolution on my 8.9 inch netbook. Clicking edit - preference, it popup a dialog with left column blank, then the dialog is automatically resized, displays the left column and overflows the screen. Where is the code resizes the setting dialog automatically and asynchronously? Thanks. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 14:35 +0530, Sankar P wrote: I don't see a high data content. There are Camel docs, plugin docs, some design docs about shell and threading, most of which will have to change anyway, soon. And most of the other links originating from the go-evolution home page points to obsolete contents. There are some test cases, but iirc they are stored in Novell testopia already. ...snip... If all these does not convince you, you can save dollars on the storage space for the site ;-) . So imho, it is definitely worth moving to live.gnome.org . +1 Well stated. :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 07:34 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 14:35 +0530, Sankar P wrote: I don't see a high data content. There are Camel docs, plugin docs, some design docs about shell and threading, most of which will have to change anyway, soon. And most of the other links originating from the go-evolution home page points to obsolete contents. There are some test cases, but iirc they are stored in Novell testopia already. We would still need to maintain the old data to know the history though they may become obsolete. Certainly a lot of things mentioned still hold true ;) ...snip... If all these does not convince you, you can save dollars on the storage space for the site ;-) . So imho, it is definitely worth moving to live.gnome.org . +1 Well stated. :) I concur with this provided all the old data are still maintained. - Chenthill. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 11:09 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 06:15 -0600, P Chenthill wrote: We would still need to maintain the old data to know the history though they may become obsolete. Certainly a lot of things mentioned still hold true ;) A compromise might be to only migrate the pages with current and accurate information to l.g.o, and keep go-evolution.org around as a historical archive. Archived pages brought back to life at a later date could be migrated individually. It -is- a wiki, after all. Makes sense. How about putting the architecture and other historic data on roadmaps into www.gnome.org/projects/evolution and current pages in l.g.o ? Close go-evolution.org once for all. - Chenthill. Might be interesting to compile a list of pages we still maintain or care about. I have a few not listed on the front page (BugzillaTopics and ReleaseHOWTO, for example). Perhaps a bigger issue is converting the page markup. I've noticed syntactic differences between the two sites [1], but I don't even know what wiki software the two sites are using. Need to see if there's markup migration scripts out there. Matthew Barnes [1] live.gnome.org's markup syntax seems way more expressive and is actually DOCUMENTED! (http://live.gnome.org/HelpOnEditing) Unlike our own. (http://www.go-evolution.org/Help:Editing) Not to mention the style sheets are prettier. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org
Probably i can give a try for a resource for revamping Wiki and for installing captcha and updating drupple for go-evolution.org.This may take approx 2 weeks.If things are not possible, i can confirm earlier and a migration/closure decision can be taken accordingly. Nirav On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 11:09 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 06:15 -0600, P Chenthill wrote: We would still need to maintain the old data to know the history though they may become obsolete. Certainly a lot of things mentioned still hold true ;) A compromise might be to only migrate the pages with current and accurate information to l.g.o, and keep go-evolution.org around as a historical archive. Archived pages brought back to life at a later date could be migrated individually. It -is- a wiki, after all. Might be interesting to compile a list of pages we still maintain or care about. I have a few not listed on the front page (BugzillaTopics and ReleaseHOWTO, for example). Perhaps a bigger issue is converting the page markup. I've noticed syntactic differences between the two sites [1], but I don't even know what wiki software the two sites are using. Need to see if there's markup migration scripts out there. Matthew Barnes [1] live.gnome.org's markup syntax seems way more expressive and is actually DOCUMENTED! (http://live.gnome.org/HelpOnEditing) Unlike our own. (http://www.go-evolution.org/Help:Editing) Not to mention the style sheets are prettier. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] PATCH: Storing and fetching bodystructure, the patch
Ping, do we have a decision on this? On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 12:57 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: Hi there, I would like Evolution to store IMAP's bodystructure as often as possible. The reason for this is storing RDF graphs. Let me explain. I wrote a EPlugin for Evolution that is compiled and distributed by the Tracker project. This plugin fetches as much metadata about E-mails as possible and pushes it into Tracker's RDF store. Tracker's RDF store is a Nepomuk-ontology based RDF store that offers SPARQL as query language, and SPARQL Update as storage language. We have enhanced the Nepomuk message ontology so that it can store the entire structure of an E-mail. This means the structure that you can request using the BODY or BODYSTRUCTURE FETCH requests. These return you the MIME structure of the message in a pre-parsed skiplist format. Using this info our plugin can reconstruct the message's skeleton, but then in RDF as a graph. I don't just talk. I wrote the patch to do this too. It's attached. I tried to keep the changes small, and I implemented the migration code so that the tables' schemas will automatically be converted. The patch needs a good review, though. And testing. This is the point of the patch (a stored bodystructure string): sqlite select bodystructure from 'INBOX/100' LIMIT 2; (TEXT PLAIN (CHARSET ISO-8859-1) NIL NIL 8BIT 2304 53 NIL NIL NIL NIL) (TEXT PLAIN NIL NIL NIL 7BIT 3829 80 NIL NIL NIL NIL) sqlite Note about adding BODYSTRUCTURE to the IMAP FETCH query that IMAP servers usually cache the body-structures. It wont slowdown an IMAP server, one that is worth being called an IMAP server, much. It will add some bandwidth. But apparently isn't Evolution trying to save bandwidth, otherwise camel-imap-folder.c would use ENVELOPE instead of BODY.PEEK[HEADER.FIELDS(-a long list-)] (right?). Here are some pointers about things I just wrote: The Nemomuk message ontology http://git.gnome.org/cgit/tracker/tree/data/ontologies/34-nmo.ontology How we want this stuff in Tracker, how it could be used http://live.gnome.org/Tracker/Documentation/EmailSparql The Evolution plugin: http://git.gnome.org/cgit/tracker/tree/src/plugins/evolution/tracker-evolution-plugin.c Let me know! ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] go-evolution.org
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 14:48 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 12:17 -0600, Nirav Kumar wrote: As such any takers for revamping wiki on a continuous basis? Define revamping. To revise(make changes) or reconstruct Probably i can give a try for a resource for revamping Wiki and for installing captcha and updating drupple for go-evolution.org. Do you mean Drupal? That would answer my earlier question. Yes live.gnome.org uses MoinMoin, go-evolution.org uses Drupal? Mostly Drupal gets used.I am catching up with IST on details.Will confirm. Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
