[Evolution-hackers] ExchangeServer 2003: MAPI or Exchange?

2010-11-29 Thread Herbert Stiftler
Hi,

in my company we use an Exchange server 2003. As I'm planning to switching to 
ubuntu, I'm interested in using evolution for email.
As i see, there are two options to connect to exchange server: evolution-mapi 
and evolution-exchange

- What are the differences between them?
- Which one is more stable?
- Which one is more complete?
- Which one you would suggest to use?

Thank you,
Herbert


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] ExchangeServer 2003: MAPI or Exchange?

2010-11-29 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 19:23 +, Herbert Stiftler wrote:

 in my company we use an Exchange server 2003. As I'm planning to
 switching to ubuntu, I'm interested in using evolution for email.
 As i see, there are two options to connect to exchange server:
 evolution-mapi and evolution-exchange
 
 - What are the differences between them?
 - Which one is more stable?
 - Which one is more complete?
 - Which one you would suggest to use?

Evolution-exchange is far and away the more stable and complete, and
it's definitely the one you should use.  I had no problems with this
backend for the last year or so that I used it; it was very stable and
well-behaved.

The evolution-mapi backend is (IMO) barely usable (it's NOT usable for
me, and I have very minimal needs: just email and basic group
calendaring).  I'm not sure it works with Exchange 2003 at all.

Here's the trick: evolution-exchange will not work with Exchange 2007 or
above: it's a dead-end project in that sense.  So you're in luck since
you have Exchange 2003: use evolution-exchange and be happy.

And you can hope that by the time your IT guys decide to update to
Exchange 2007, the exchange-mapi backend will be working.

Cheers!


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] ExchangeServer 2003: MAPI or Exchange?

2010-11-29 Thread Kenny,Vale
Dunno if this exchange is appropriate in this list(I’m a n00b), however, in my 
experience evolution-exchange will work fine with 2003.  Things don’t start 
getting sketchy until Exchange 2007, and there if you want full function you 
must use exchange-mapi, which is very sketchy indeed ( or at least the version 
I’m using – 2.30 ).
I’m currently trying (with very, well, 0 success) to build a dev checkout of 
Evolution (2.91.4) and am having no end of troubles..
So:  evo-exchange works fine w/ 2003, evo-mapi works (not really) with 2007, 
and imap will work with both if you don’t need full functionality (things like 
calendar synching etc.)

Peace,
V

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 2:24 PM
To: evolution-hackers@gnome.org
Subject: [Evolution-hackers] ExchangeServer 2003: MAPI or Exchange?

Hi,

in my company we use an Exchange server 2003. As I'm planning to switching to 
ubuntu, I'm interested in using evolution for email.
As i see, there are two options to connect to exchange server: evolution-mapi 
and evolution-exchange

- What are the differences between them?
- Which one is more stable?
- Which one is more complete?
- Which one you would suggest to use?

Thank you,
Herbert

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[Evolution-hackers] Evolution build script

2010-11-29 Thread Kenny,Vale
Heyas all,

I'm trying to build Evolution using Paul Smith's script and having virtually 0 
luck.  I get the following:

http://pastebin.ca/2006084

The second half of the error is what I get when I try and run the command 
referred to in the initial error...

This happens during the 'install' and I have followed the directions I've found 
on the net:
Remove all files from the destination dir
Remove obj directory
Rebuild --- 
But I get the same results.

Can anyone suggest anything?  I would really like to get this built, but I hit 
this brick wall.

Thanks all,
V


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From: evolution-hackers-boun...@gnome.org 
[mailto:evolution-hackers-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Paul Smith
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 2:36 PM
To: Herbert Stiftler
Cc: evolution-hackers@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution-hackers] ExchangeServer 2003: MAPI or Exchange?

On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 19:23 +, Herbert Stiftler wrote:

 in my company we use an Exchange server 2003. As I'm planning to
 switching to ubuntu, I'm interested in using evolution for email.
 As i see, there are two options to connect to exchange server:
 evolution-mapi and evolution-exchange
 
 - What are the differences between them?
 - Which one is more stable?
 - Which one is more complete?
 - Which one you would suggest to use?

Evolution-exchange is far and away the more stable and complete, and
it's definitely the one you should use.  I had no problems with this
backend for the last year or so that I used it; it was very stable and
well-behaved.

The evolution-mapi backend is (IMO) barely usable (it's NOT usable for
me, and I have very minimal needs: just email and basic group
calendaring).  I'm not sure it works with Exchange 2003 at all.

Here's the trick: evolution-exchange will not work with Exchange 2007 or
above: it's a dead-end project in that sense.  So you're in luck since
you have Exchange 2003: use evolution-exchange and be happy.

And you can hope that by the time your IT guys decide to update to
Exchange 2007, the exchange-mapi backend will be working.

Cheers!


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[Evolution-hackers] Wrong factories starting after alternative installs?

2010-11-29 Thread Paul Smith
Hi all;

So, I've been using my makefile to build Evolution 2.32 (latest
gnome-2-32 branch actually) on my Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick) system and
it's basically working.  However, when I start Evolution it's invoking
the wrong factory apps.

To start with I run evolution --force-shutdown and verify that no
Evolution processes are running at all.

Then I start Evolution.  Now when I look for Evolution processes I see
the right Evolution front-end:

psmith   18271 17539  1 15:20 ?00:00:04 /opt/evo-2.32/bin/evolution

But I see this incorrect (old)

psmith   26043 1  0 15:21 ?00:00:00 
/usr/lib/evolution/e-addressbook-factory


I did already create a file 
So my question is, where/how does Evolution get this factory invoked?

I already have added a /etc/dbus-1/session.d/evo-2.32.conf file
containing:

busconfigservicedir/opt/evo-2.32/share/dbus-1/services//servicedir/busconfig

which is what I had to do last time (and I've rebooted since this, by
the way, for other reasons).

Is this still what I need for Evo 2.32, or is there something different?
Any way to debug why the other factory is being invoked instead of mine?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Wrong factories starting after alternative installs?

2010-11-29 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 15:32 -0500, Paul Smith wrote:
 I already have added a /etc/dbus-1/session.d/evo-2.32.conf file
 containing:
 
 busconfigservicedir/opt/evo-2.32/share/dbus-1/services//servicedir/busconfig
 
 which is what I had to do last time (and I've rebooted since this, by
 the way, for other reasons).
 
 Is this still what I need for Evo 2.32, or is there something different?
 Any way to debug why the other factory is being invoked instead of mine?

The config file looks right to me.  I gave a similar example awhile back
which you might try copying verbatim:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2010-March/msg00023.html

Matthew Barnes

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution build script

2010-11-29 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 15:00 -0500, Kenny,Vale wrote:
 I'm trying to build Evolution using Paul Smith's script and having
 virtually 0 luck.  I get the following:
 
 http://pastebin.ca/2006084

I've just tried this and sure enough, there's a bug in the evolution
builds.

Applying this patch fixed it for me (Matt/et.al., this should be checked
into the master branch for evolution):


diff --git a/mail/importers/Makefile.am b/mail/importers/Makefile.am
index 0c18649..f46708b 100644
--- a/mail/importers/Makefile.am
+++ b/mail/importers/Makefile.am
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ libevolution_mail_importers_la_CPPFLAGS = \
-I$(top_srcdir) \
-I$(top_srcdir)/widgets \
$(GNOME_PLATFORM_CFLAGS)\
+   $(CAMEL_CFLAGS) \
$(EVOLUTION_MAIL_CFLAGS)\
-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\evolution-mail-importer\  \
-DEVOLUTION_PRIVDATADIR=\$(privdatadir)\\
@@ -28,8 +29,10 @@ libevolution_mail_importers_la_LIBADD =  
\
$(top_builddir)/mail/libevolution-mail.la   \
$(top_builddir)/shell/libeshell.la  \
$(top_builddir)/widgets/misc/libemiscwidgets.la \
+   $(CAMEL_LIBS)   \
$(GNOME_PLATFORM_LIBS)  \
$(EVOLUTION_MAIL_LIBS)  \
-   $(IMPORTERS_LIBS)
+   $(IMPORTERS_LIBS)   \
+   $(CAMEL_LIBS)
 
 -include $(top_srcdir)/git.mk


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[Evolution-hackers] Evo 2.91.x and MAPI

2010-11-29 Thread Kenny,Vale
Has anyone tried evolution-mapi 2.91.x with Exchange server 2007 yet?

It just occurred to me that I may be completely wasting my time; an activity at 
which I have significant experience and many fond memories, however not one in 
which, for the nonce, I'd choose to continue developing.

So...  :)

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Wrong factories starting after alternative installs?

2010-11-29 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 14:51 -0600, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 The config file looks right to me.  I gave a similar example awhile
 back which you might try copying verbatim:
 
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2010-March/msg00023.html 

That's exactly where I got my version originally.  I did, just to be
sure, try copying that verbatim into session.local.conf then logging out
and back in, but it didn't help.

I even renamed the default factories that were being started, and now
I get an error when I try to access my contacts list:

Detailed error message: Error calling StartServiceByName for
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed
to execute program /usr/lib/evolution/e-addressbook-factory:
Success

That's to be expected I suppose but it clearly shows that dbus is not
interested in my customized servicedir settings.


How can I figure this out??!!

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