Re: [Evolution-hackers] Reconsidering our release cycle

2013-07-24 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com wrote: Increasingly I'm feeling like the traditional 6-month release cycle is just too short for Evolution. In terms of development, we have a pretty short window for landing major changes and allowing adequate time for

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Reconsidering our release cycle

2013-07-24 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 02:54 +0200, Fabiano FidĂȘncio wrote: I also fully agree with your suggestion. As we have discussed, users are reporting bugs against 3.8.x now and they will need to wait at least 6 months before they get a fix in 3.10.x. I mean, from the stability point of view it

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Reconsidering our release cycle

2013-07-24 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 10:59 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 02:54 +0200, Fabiano FidĂȘncio wrote: I also fully agree with your suggestion. As we have discussed, users are reporting bugs against 3.8.x now and they will need to wait at least 6 months before they get a

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Reconsidering our release cycle

2013-07-24 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 10:58 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: My concern is that it could also be longer before new features and fixes actually make it into a release. For example, if we were on an annual schedule and people were still using Evolution 3.6 today instead of Evolution 3.8 we'd

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Reconsidering our release cycle

2013-07-24 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Hi Fabiano, On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Fabiano FidĂȘncio fabi...@fidencio.org wrote: Srini, I really wouldn't want EDS to be part of this, if we ever want it to be a proper platform/core material. Just Evolution would be better fit for this model IMHO. Could I ask you why? If you

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Reconsidering our release cycle

2013-07-24 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:28 PM, David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: I don't think that makes sense. As Fabiano points out, Evo and EDS are *very* closely tied. Even in the *stable* branch in 3.8.4 there are fixes for EDS/EWS which require corresponding fixes in Evo. Breaking the close

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Reconsidering our release cycle

2013-07-24 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 10:10 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: Increasingly I'm feeling like the traditional 6-month release cycle is just too short for Evolution. Hi, I'm replying slightly later, I was thinking of this a bit. Generally I agree, I also feel like the 6-month release cycle is

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Reconsidering our release cycle

2013-07-24 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 06:42 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: ... even it brings more work to us. For a good reason, of course. By the way, it also means that any so-called white-space cleanups, which I always understood as a one-time job, not a multiple-times-per-releases job, should either stop