Re: [Evolution-hackers] [CAMEL] CamelStore create_folder() name constraints...

2005-11-01 Thread Not Zed
On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 09:34 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 11:13 +0530, Parthasarathi Susarla wrote:
  On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 12:02 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
   On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 16:24 +0530, Parthasarathi Susarla wrote:
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 12:13 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 Is it guaranteed that no sub-folder with the name doc exists in
 Save/Evolution when the function is invoked?

Yes.
   
   no, it is not.
  Thanks for pointing that out jeff. kinda had missed the point there.
 
 So sibling folders with identical names might very well exist in any
 folder? I can not create any such folder with Evolution 2.2.x so it is
 up to the Camel provider to enforce any such constraint I guess??

Umm thats not what you asked.  The api to create folder will not do any
unique checks, it is up to the backend to do it.  Create folder also has
little to do with identical names existing.

I think what you're asking is can you open different folders with the
same full_name, and the answer is a big no.  That is the only thing
which uniquely defines folders.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] CAMEL_FOLDER_HIDDEN?

2005-11-01 Thread Not Zed

No.

CAMEL_FOLDER_VISIBLE is a count of the number of visible messages in the
folder, it has nothing to do with folder flags.

On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 13:35 +0100, Jules Colding wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I can see a CAMEL_FOLDER_VISIBLE but no HIDDEN. Is there a way to mark a
 folder invisible??
 
 Thanks,
   jules
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [CAMEL] CamelFolderInfo clarification please...

2005-11-01 Thread Not Zed

On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 10:35 +0100, Jules Colding wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I think that I know how to interpret CamelFolderInfo but I would really
 appreciate to have my understanding confirmed in the context of
 get_folder_info().
 
 
 
 CamelFolderInfo is declared as:
 
 typedef struct _CamelFolderInfo {
   struct _CamelFolderInfo *next;
   struct _CamelFolderInfo *parent;
   struct _CamelFolderInfo *child;
 
   char *uri;
   char *name;
   char *full_name;
 
   guint32 flags;
   guint32 unread;
   guint32 total;
 } CamelFolderInfo;
 
 
 
 get_folder_info() is declared as:
 
 static CamelFolderInfo*
 brutus_get_folder_info(CamelStore *store, 
  const char *top,
  guint32 flags, 
  CamelException *ex);
 
 
 My understanding is:
 
 next: A pointer to a CamelFolderInfo structure for the next folder on
 the same tree-level as the current one. The current folder is top.
 
 parent: If top is NULL then parent is NULL too. If top is non-NULL
 then parent is a pointer to the CamelFolderInfo structure for the folder
 containing top

A null top and a top of  should be treated the same.

 child: This one is the one I am mostly confused about. I think that it
 is an array of pointers to CamelFolderInfo structures of all folders
 which is contained within top. The array is terminated with NULL.

Ugh, its a tree node pointer.  Each camelfolderinfo is a tree node.  The
types make it pretty obvious.

 uri: A string based upon the Camel.Service uri and the full folder name.
 Its format is otherwise totally unspecified except that it must uniquely
 identify a given folder. It does not seem to be used anywhere else in
 Camel. Design oversight?

It's used EXTENSIVELY in evolution.  Thats how a folder is loaded.  It
certainly isn't a design oversight.

 name: A basename()-ish version of full_name.

Not exactly.  This is the translated display name for the folder.  It
may or may not relate to the full_name.  It will be a basename for
non-system folders (e.g. inbox).

 full_name: An absolute path to top.
 
 flags: Flags describing top.

Wrong.  Flags describing this node: the folder full_name.

 unread: The number of unread message objects in top.
 
 total: The total number of message objects in top.

Wrong wrong, the number of unread messages in this node: full_name.

 Could someone please confirm that my interpretation is correct?
 
 Thanks a lot in advance,
   jules
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [Camel] CamelFolderInfo.uri confusion

2005-11-01 Thread Not Zed
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 15:06 +0100, Jules Colding wrote:
 Hi,
 
 CamelFolderInfo.uri is described as a unique identifier for a folder.
 The documentation says that it *must* be based upon the Camel.Service
 uri and the full folder name. 
 
 It is not specified how an implementation should compose the uri and I
 do not see the uri being used as a function parameter anywhere in Camel.
 
 Is the Camel provider free to build the uri as it wish and where is this
 uri used in Camel?

Yes it is, except the full_name must be in it somewhere.  It only needs
to honour the url flags that specify which part of the uri contains the
folder full_name, either path or fragment.

It's used by client code to resolve the service and then open the
folder.

 Thanks,
   jules
 
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] message list for folder

2005-11-01 Thread Not Zed
On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 20:36 +0530, Parthasarathi Susarla wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:55 +0700, Igor J. wrote:
  On Thursday 20 October 2005 16:50, Parthasarathi Susarla wrote:
   There is a hook for new messages available but that does not give the
   list of messages. It just gives the folder name and uri.
  
   I dont think so getting the list is possible though.
  Yes. But can I get list of all folders in Evolution and view them and find 
  with that URI (and get message list for it)? I think yes.
 you get get a list of all the messages in a folder yes. All you need to
 do is get the CamelFolderSummary and you will further get a list of
 CamelMessageInfos from it.

Wrong, CamelFolderSummary is a private object of the folder.  You only
get the messageinfo's from the CamelFolder methods.

Igor: read the docs on Camel Store.

 Cheers,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] evolution spell ckecker problem

2005-10-11 Thread Not Zed

Do not cross post user questions to the evolution-hackers list or
PARTICULARLY the patches list.

Nobody please respond to this message on those lists.

On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 02:23 +0530, root wrote:
 hi everybody,
   I(sandeep) am doing project at 
 novell . I am facing a problem . I can't just add a spell checker to 
 evolution.
 details:
  1. Gnome Version 2.10.
  2. Evolution Version 2.4 .
  3. Aspell Versionaspell-0.60.2 .
  4. Dictionary Version 
 aspell-en-0.51-1 .
 I have also copied *spell* and *ispell *to my HOME 
 directory but all in vain. Whenever I open evolution it shows there is 
 no Dictionary installed for spell checking. PLEASE *HELP* me as I have 
 to produce bug as soon as possible.
 

  


   Sandeep Halder
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [CAMEL] camel_url_set_param() not working as I thought it would?

2005-10-10 Thread Not Zed
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 10:37 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 11:36 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
  Yes as jeff said, but basically, the CamelService url is just an
  in-memory object, in effect read-only, it is never ever saved.  Accounts
  are controlled and maintained completely separately, and that is where
  the opening uri comes from.
 
 Hmm... Would I wreck havoc on that design if I figured out a way to save
 the service-url during an Evolution session? I guess that would be
 somewhere in gconf?? 

Definitely not in gconf, it isn't thread-safe.

  Looks like you're using it to store persistent state, 
 
 Not really, well.. yes, sort of...
 
 MAPI operates with a concept of a MAPI Profile that is stored locally on
 the physical client box, the Brutus server in this case. A client must
 known the name of a profile to use before he can log onto an Exchange
 account. Or create a Profile if one does not exist beforehand. 
 
 The Profile name must therefore be equally accessible to mail and
 calendar components during and across Evolution sessions.
 
 It seems to me that it would be wrong to store the Profile name
 somewhere Camel specific.

Sounds like it needs to be in the account then.  You can set it from
your account-editor plugin.




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Re: [Evolution-hackers] libcamel problems

2005-09-21 Thread Not Zed

With the older versions of camel that install the libraries in an
evolution-specific directory, you have to either manually specify the
run-path to the linker, or use LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

For linking with gcc, you do something like

-Wl,-R/usr/lib64/evolution/2.0

Or just specify the full path to the .so file instead of using -lcamel.

For LD_LIBRARY_PATH you add something like

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/lib64/evolution/2.0

Basically the pkgconfig file isn't really correct, and camel wasn't
intended to be used outside of evolution (hence the private directory).

2.2 or newer installs it in /usr/lib*/ directly (although the pkgconfig
files may still be broken).

 Michael

On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 16:26 -0400, ethan zimmerman wrote:
 Hello I am new to this list. I've checked the list archives and done
 some googling but to no avail so I'm turning to you guys.
 
 I'm trying to learn how to use libcamel (initially for MIME parsing)
 but I'm having compiling/linking problems. Here is my Hello World
 program (taken from the wiki). I'm not sure if I should attach it or
 cut and paste or what so here's a link to it...
 
 http://ethanzimmerman.com/camel/camel_hello_world.c
 
 This is what happens when I go to build it...
 
 gcc `pkg-config --libs --cflags camel-2.0` -o camel_hello_world
 camel_hello_world.c
 ./camel_hello_world
 ./camel_hello_world: error while loading shared libraries:
 libcamel.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
 directory
 
 but libcamel.so.0 exists in /usr/lib64/evolution/2.0 (it's a symlink
 to libcamel.so.0.0.0)
 
 I am running Fedora Core 3 on (dual) amd64.
 
 I don't know where to start looking for answers so any help would
 be ...uhm, helpfull.
 
 Thank You
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [Camel] How can I get a reference to the store class from another class?

2005-09-14 Thread Not Zed

 I should always call the parent class's connect method at the start of
 my own connect() implementation???
 
 Now I am really confused. I can't see any of the other Camel providers
 calling the parent connect() in their own connect() implementation in
 the store or transport classes.

Well, if you're using disco-store, it's a bit different and it does
things for you, otherwise yeah you probably should.

Not that it actually does anything mind you ... 


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [Camel] Folder names

2005-09-14 Thread Not Zed
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 10:15 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 22:06 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
  The full-name is a / separated name, but it doesn't start with /.  i.e.
  you might have a folderinfo like:
  
  fi = {
  .name = evolution;
  .full_name = Inbox/evolution;
  };
 
 So when a folder name is given as a parameter to a method, then it is
 the full_name that is given?

For anything like opening/deleting/renaming a folder, yeah.  Creating
folders is a bit different because you get given a parent + name, but
the parent should be a full path.

  , or add it to the path component, or
  do fat-style munging.  Or you could use a different top-level namespace.
  The only problem with this is cosmetic - the full_name is often used
  when displaying folder paths in various places, so a purely numerical
  path may look strange.
 
 It certainly would. Does any upper-level component do any string
 manipulation with the full name? My idea is to put the entryid at the
 end of the full name and separate the full name readable part from the
 entryid part with '\0'. Something like (non-compilable short-hand):

 fi = {
   .name = evolution;
   .full_name = Inbox/evolution'\0'b7d33043-cfb0-4ea9-8aa1-941b0616e891;
 };
 
 Would that wreck havoc up-source?

The full_name may be strcpy'd, so if that is a \0 and not a \\0, then i
doubt it would work.

It wouldn't work anyway, you'd have to add it to every folder name in
the path.

If you list:
 Inbox-UID
 Inbox/evolution-UID

That wont work, since the parent path must be able to be found by
stripping off the /.* off a given path.  Although the API requires
proper structure to be returned from get_folder_info(), it is rarely
used, in most cases the tree is flattened, and just the full_name is
used.

(i'm not sure i'd call that manipulation, but for the sake of this it
could be).

Now ... with IMAP, the path we list doesn't map to the server name
directly either.  Since the server name should be 'modified utf7'
encoded, although often servers do not enforce this.

So, since the paths must be utf8, the imap code has a mapping function
which maps a name to a raw 'physical' name, which may, or may not be,
utf7 encoded, and then always uses that in server interactions.  This is
stored in a state file, controlled by a camel-store-summary.

You could do something like this to store the real folder name/id, and
have a mapping function, using some fat-like 'low impact' munging to
give you a unique name that isn't too messy, in the few cases you have
overlaps.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] [Camel] How can I get a reference to the store class from another class?

2005-09-13 Thread Not Zed

Well, I guess you call it ;-)

Really if you want to share connections like this you need to have some
other struct/object to represent the session, and share them between the
two objects.

Another alternative which might be easier is to have the transport just
get the corresponding store from the session; camel-provider should
handle the store resolution properly and then you can just connect/use
that itself.

I've considered merging the transport/store objects for just this
purpose, but currently this is not the case.


On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:56 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is a connect method in the transport class. I would like to use
 the connect method that I implemented in the store class. How do I get a
 reference to that one from a CamelService?
 
 Thanks,
   jules
 
 
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[Evolution-hackers] Re: More MAC'ness (s/C/d)

2005-09-13 Thread Not Zed

No idea, not my problem.  Ask the exchange guys.

On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 20:47 +0530, Shreyas Srinivasan wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 22:30 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
  third time lucky, the problem was the list address
  
  Those files were never supposed to ever be in libedataserver, that was a
  hack that someone came up with for some reason, but I don't know what it
  was.  They are specifically and only for email accounts, which do not
  belong in eds.
  
  This appears to be the only reason libedataserver/e-account.h exists:
  
  ./servers/exchange/lib/e2k-autoconfig.c:#include
  libedataserver/e-account.h
  
  But surely this sort of stuff should be in a plugin now, shouldn't it?
  
 Apparently not, I dont know the exact details but of what i heard
 e2k-autoconfig.c
 is needed by storage/exchange-account.c which does all the connection
 handling. Maybe 
 surf could explain the complete context...
 
 Btw, Any particular reason why the files in e-util/e-account* and
 libedataserver/e-account*
 not being the same ? other than the fact that some people may have
 forgotten to commit to both ?
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] evolution .desktop file

2005-09-08 Thread Not Zed
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 10:23 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
 On Wed, September 7, 2005 09:37, Not Zed wrote:
 
  Sounds like a design issue with the panel to me.  Why should it
  hard-code any applications at all?  And if it does hard-code them, then
  it can hard-code the appropriate one for that gnome version i guess.
 
 Because we want to have default launchers on the panel for the most used
 applications, ie web browser and e-mail client.
 
 And we can't change this at every release cycle since this is the
 configuration for the user: when the user upgrades to GNOME 2.14, his
 nice evolution-2.4 launcher will disappear if we hard-code the version
 in the desktop filename.

Umm, why can't you change it each release cycle?  you've got 6 months to
change the name.  Is that not long enough?  Would you like more time?

  The version number exists i presume for parallel installs (not that they
  work anymore).
 
 You could probide two desktop files: one that does not contain any
 version informations and that runs evolution, and other desktop files
 for every versions.
 
 The evolution binary would launch the latest stable evolution that is
 installed.
 
 I think it's really necessary to provide a stable way that does not
 change at each new major version to launch evolution.

Well, I think you're wrong.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] ldap_ntlm_bind problem

2005-09-04 Thread Not Zed

Is it linking to the correct ldap library?  The one with the ntlm patch?

Maybe configure is checking a different one it is linking to at run
time.

On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 12:42 +0100, William John Murray wrote:
 Hello there,
I am trying to compile the cvs gnome-2-12, using a script 
 which has worked for a long time. Now it compiles, but cannot run. Can 
 anyone suggest the cause please?
EDS is compiled like this:
 
 pushd evolution-data-server
 make clean
 PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/evo/lib/pkgconfig/ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/evo/ 
   --with-openldap=/opt/evo-openldap --with-krb5=/usr
 make
 sudo make install
 popd
 
Part of its O.P. is:
 checking for ldap_ntlm_bind... yes
 
 But on running like this:
 export BONOBO_ACTIVATION_PATH=/opt/evo/lib/bonobo/servers
 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/evo/lib/:/usr/lib/mozilla-`mozilla --version 
 | cut -d   -f 2 | cut -d , -f -1`/:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 export PATH=/opt/evo/bin/:/opt/evo/libexec/:$PATH
 evolution-2.4 $@
 
I get:
 Could not load 
 /opt/evo//lib/evolution-data-server-1.2/camel-providers/libcamelexchange.so: 
 /opt/evo//lib/libexchange-storage-1.2.so.0: undefined symbol: ldap_ntlm_bind
 
Any ideas?
   Thanks,
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution and Evolution-Data-Server branched

2005-09-02 Thread Not Zed

So, whats the bug number of this bug report?

How on earth are we supposed to fix things we don't know about.


On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 00:06 +0400, Mikhail Zabaluev wrote:
 В Чтв, 01/09/2005 в 15:16 +0530, Harish Krishnaswamy пишет: 
  On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 10:30 +0400, Mikhail Zabaluev wrote:
   Hello,
   
   В Срд, 31/08/2005 в 19:57 +0530, Harish Krishnaswamy пишет:
 The gnome-2-12 branch for Evolution and Evolution-Data-Server has been
created. This would be the stable branch for Evolution 2.4 and
Evolution-Data-Server 1.4
   
   Will the IMAP code, broken since 2.3.6, be fixed back to shape?
  
  The much-talked-about IMAP issue reported in 2.3.6 had been fixed soon
  after it was reported and the 2.3.6.1 Evolution (or more correctly, EDS
  1.3.6.1) was released with the fixes.
 
 How come I can't access my IMAP folders (via SSH) in 2.3.8/1.3.8, with
 the same effect as with 1.3.6: at startup, the IMAP account tree appears
 collapsed. If I expand it, the retrieval freezes, and Evolution can't be
 closed.
 With 2.3.5/1.3.5, the account tree is initially expanded and mail
 retrieval proceeds as normal.
 
  (And I hope we are both referring to IMAP not the IMAP4rev1 backend).
 
 Nope.
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Progress with... snip - ORBit2 event loop is causing the crash

2005-09-02 Thread Not Zed

Orbit and gthread calls are outside the scope of camel; i have no idea
why they would be crashing, doubtful that camel would have anything to
do with it.  Unless you can't create a gthread reliably from a normal
posix one.  And unless you can't call orb_run without a g_main_loop it's
running under - which again isn't camel.

Camel precludes the use of gobject basically because gobject isn't
threadsafe, if orb_run is also not threadsafe, that is its problem too.

You really need a good backtrace.  Make sure the mono plugin is
de-installed or deactivated, as that will interfere with stack traces.

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 15:37 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 15:08 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am making progress, but Evolution 2.4 crashes at startup. I can not
  get a usable backtrace so my guess is that my skeleton Camel store
  methods are causing the crash by doing something really stupid.
 
 OK, I've narrowed this down to when I am calling CORBA_ORB_run() in
 camel-brutus-store.c:156. Everything works, except for the fact that I
 can't get an ORB, when CORBA_ORB_run() isn't called. 
 
 Are there some deep magic that forbids the ORB loop to be invoked in
 Camel?
 
 Any ideas on how to make this work??
 
 
 Thanks,
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