Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy

2008-04-08 Thread George Farris
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:43 -0400, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:14 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
  Unless something radical happens in the next few weeks to resolve
  all these problems, I regret to say that this Ubuntu Long-Term
  Support release will not be anywhere close to ready to deploy in an
  enterprise environment.

I completely agree.  I know of myself and at least two others running
Hardy with Evolution Exchange backend and it is unusable because the
exchange backend keeps dying.



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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy

2008-04-08 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 08:08 -0700, George Farris wrote:
 I completely agree.  I know of myself and at least two others running
 Hardy with Evolution Exchange backend and it is unusable because the
 exchange backend keeps dying.

Are you on 32bit or 64bit systems?  Do you have multiple CPUs?

It really confuses me, because as I said I've been using my makefile
( http://mad-scientist.us/evolution.html ) to build from SVN on my Gutsy
system, and it runs _great_.

I can't figure out what's different about Hardy that's causing this
problem.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy

2008-04-08 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 13:15 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 I can't figure out what's different about Hardy that's causing this
 problem.

There was a major update to Hardy today that included all parts of
Evolution, including e-d-s and evolution-exchange.  The bugs listed
there looked very serious: freeing null pointers and other really
unpleasant things.  There haven't been any changes to the gnome-2-22
branch in SVN for anything like this in quite a while, so I'm not sure
where these fixes came from (or maybe more accurately, where the
previous, unfixed versions came from).

After the upgrade my Evo in Hardy was stable and responsive for an hour
or two before I had to come home (but, now my system doesn't recognize
the proper screen size for my LCD monitor... but that's another story).

I'm not ready to call it fixed quite yet, but if you haven't updated
lately you should do so, then see if things are any better for you.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy

2008-04-08 Thread HggdH
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 20:54 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 There was a major update to Hardy today that included all parts of
 Evolution, including e-d-s and evolution-exchange.  The bugs listed
 there looked very serious: freeing null pointers and other really
 unpleasant things.  There haven't been any changes to the gnome-2-22
 branch in SVN for anything like this in quite a while, so I'm not sure
 where these fixes came from (or maybe more accurately, where the
 previous, unfixed versions came from).

The fixes came from upstream indeed. They are fixes that were committed
from about March 10th to April 7th (i.e., from the 2.22.00 release to
2.22.1). Additionally, the Ubuntu 2.22.1 change logs ([1], [2], and [3])
list the bugzilla fixes included on 2.22.1.

The Ubuntu/Debian specific fixes are listed in the source packages,
under ./debian/patches; a quick look there did not show me anything we
added off upstream that would address the memory corruption, etc.

 I'm not ready to call it fixed quite yet, but if you haven't updated
 lately you should do so, then see if things are any better for you.

Anyway, of course, for Ubuntu we do recommend you run the up-to-date
versions -- remember we are still beta on Hardy 8.04.

I have been busy lately but, to my (dim) remembering, the only critical
issue we still have left on Evo for Hardy is the E-D-S loop on startup
([4] for Ubuntu, [5] for bugzilla).

Regards,

..hggdh..

[1]
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-April/010564.html
[2]
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-April/010569.html
[3]
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-April/010588.html
[4]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/151536
[5] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518524



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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy

2008-04-08 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 04:03 +0200, HggdH wrote:
 The fixes came from upstream indeed. They are fixes that were
 committed from about March 10th to April 7th (i.e., from the 2.22.00
 release to 2.22.1).

OK, gotcha.  I incorrectly assumed that 2.22.1 was already in Hardy.
I'll give it a good workout tomorrow and make sure it's stable.

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[Evolution-hackers] Evolution Exchange in Ubuntu Hardy

2008-04-07 Thread Paul Smith
Well, I've been very excited to see Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) about to
be released, because I've been so pleased with the current version of
Evo and in particular, Evo Exchange and all the improvements in
stability etc. that have been made over the last year or so.  As you
know I've been building Evo from SVN fairly regularly and these versions
really run well on my systems (32bit Intel, one hyperthreaded one not).
They are fast, stable, and reliable (with the one glaring exception of
to atrocious timezone handling bug).  I'm eager for people to be able to
enjoy this new version.

So, last week I took one of the systems I've been temporarily using
(Intel 64bit dual core), resized the partition, and installed Ubuntu
Hardy beta, 64bit.

I regret to say that Evolution (in particular Exchange, because I didn't
try any other servers) is a complete disaster as it currently stands on
this system.

I can't keep it running and connected to my Exchange server for more
than a few hours at best, and often it won't stay up for more than a few
minutes.  The Exchange backend is dying (but no cores that I can see and
no messages in the logs), and then I get the dreaded lost connection
with backend server.  E-D-S goes into infinite loops and sucks up 100%
of one of the CPUs.


I don't know if it's 64bit machines (are others with 64bit systems
having issues with Evolution?), the particular build that Ubuntu is
doing of Evolution, or what in the heck is going on but this is far and
away the least stable, most unusable version of Evolution I've used
since 2.4 or even earlier.

Unless something radical happens in the next few weeks to resolve all
these problems, I regret to say that this Ubuntu Long-Term Support
release will not be anywhere close to ready to deploy in an enterprise
environment.

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