Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-09-06 Thread Murray Cumming

On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 12:30 +0530, Chenthill wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:01 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
 * System Timezone Integration 

Does this mean that evolution no longer asks the user for their
  timezone
at first use? Are there any other user-noticeable changes? 
 Currently evolution maintains its own timezone files. For every change
 in the zonefino, we would need to update the timezone's maintained. Now
 with the system timezone integration, we pickup the timezones from the
 system, this update from evolution is not required. Evolution would pick
 the latest timezone's from the system. There are no user-noticeable
 changes.

So this has nothing to do with asking for the timezone in evolution's first-use 
wizard?
Why does evolution do that instead of using the system timezone?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-09-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 06.09.2007, 11:16 +0200 schrieb Murray Cumming:
 So this has nothing to do with asking for the timezone in evolution's 
 first-use wizard?
 Why does evolution do that instead of using the system timezone?

according to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229132#c3 the
default is set to the current timezone configured in the system, at
least.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-30 Thread Sankar P
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:13 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 23:42 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
  On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:24 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
   On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
   * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
 
 Evolution has support to attach FACE header while sending e-mails and
 extract the header while receiving and show it in the preview pane.
 http://bp3.blogger.com/_G_VBnbGWMzs/Rpy_2WCctrI/BGo/qWewaum0Z-A/s1600-h/ZFace.jpg

How can I tell evolution to use a particular image when I send emails? I
don't see this in the preferences.
   Currently you can do it from Insert-Face in the composer window. It was
   supposed to have a preferences as part of plugin configuration. But I
   dont think it made it to svn.
   
   Sankar, am I right?
  
  Yes. You are.
  
  You need to use Inset-Face in the composer window. 
  
  A few more things are still pending for this plugin. User should be able
  to set a photo from plugin-configure. The plugin should also support
  resizing the photo by itself. I did some of these changes but missed the
  freeze dead-line. So all these can go only after branching for Evo-2.14
  is done.
 
 It seems obvious to me that this should be a per-account preference, or
 maybe it should be in the GNOME About Me control panel. As it is, it
 doesn't seem worth mentioning in the release notes, because it's not
 very usable if I have to specify an image file for each email that I
 send. Does that seem fair? 

Only the first time the user selects Insert Face he will be prompted
for an image. On subsequent times, the old selected image itself is
used. 

However, I accept that it is not so user-friendly at the moment. So I am
okay to not mention it in the release-notes.

 
  Matthew: 
  I was not aware of the ~/.face thing. I will try to use it in the next
  release (after the freeze is over).
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-30 Thread Chenthill
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:01 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
* System Timezone Integration 
   
   Does this mean that evolution no longer asks the user for their
 timezone
   at first use? Are there any other user-noticeable changes? 
Currently evolution maintains its own timezone files. For every change
in the zonefino, we would need to update the timezone's maintained. Now
with the system timezone integration, we pickup the timezones from the
system, this update from evolution is not required. Evolution would pick
the latest timezone's from the system. There are no user-noticeable
changes.


- Chenthill.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-29 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan

On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 12:10 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
* Backup restore support
   
   What does this actually allow the user to do?
  
  Users can archive/backup entire Evolution mails/setting and restore it
  on a different/same machine.
  http://gnomebangalore.org/~sragavan/2.12/evo_restore.png shows that you
  can also restore from the startup assistant. 
 
 Someone said that they thought this was in previous versions of
 Evolution. Is the whole thing new, or is just part of this new?

Murray, the plugin was there for sometime but it had nothing useful and
was never built. We have revamped it with UI hooks and better options to
make it work and added it in the build. It is as much as new :)

-Srini.
  

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-28 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 23:42 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:24 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
  On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
   On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
  * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane

Evolution has support to attach FACE header while sending e-mails and
extract the header while receiving and show it in the preview pane.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_G_VBnbGWMzs/Rpy_2WCctrI/BGo/qWewaum0Z-A/s1600-h/ZFace.jpg
   
   How can I tell evolution to use a particular image when I send emails? I
   don't see this in the preferences.
  Currently you can do it from Insert-Face in the composer window. It was
  supposed to have a preferences as part of plugin configuration. But I
  dont think it made it to svn.
  
  Sankar, am I right?
 
 Yes. You are.
 
 You need to use Inset-Face in the composer window. 
 
 A few more things are still pending for this plugin. User should be able
 to set a photo from plugin-configure. The plugin should also support
 resizing the photo by itself. I did some of these changes but missed the
 freeze dead-line. So all these can go only after branching for Evo-2.14
 is done.

It seems obvious to me that this should be a per-account preference, or
maybe it should be in the GNOME About Me control panel. As it is, it
doesn't seem worth mentioning in the release notes, because it's not
very usable if I have to specify an image file for each email that I
send. Does that seem fair? 

 Matthew: 
 I was not aware of the ~/.face thing. I will try to use it in the next
 release (after the freeze is over).

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-28 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan

On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:13 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 23:42 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
  On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:24 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
   On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
   * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
 
 Evolution has support to attach FACE header while sending e-mails and
 extract the header while receiving and show it in the preview pane.
 http://bp3.blogger.com/_G_VBnbGWMzs/Rpy_2WCctrI/BGo/qWewaum0Z-A/s1600-h/ZFace.jpg

How can I tell evolution to use a particular image when I send emails? I
don't see this in the preferences.
   Currently you can do it from Insert-Face in the composer window. It was
   supposed to have a preferences as part of plugin configuration. But I
   dont think it made it to svn.
   
   Sankar, am I right?
  
  Yes. You are.
  
  You need to use Inset-Face in the composer window. 
  
  A few more things are still pending for this plugin. User should be able
  to set a photo from plugin-configure. The plugin should also support
  resizing the photo by itself. I did some of these changes but missed the
  freeze dead-line. So all these can go only after branching for Evo-2.14
  is done.
 
 It seems obvious to me that this should be a per-account preference, or
 maybe it should be in the GNOME About Me control panel. As it is, it
 doesn't seem worth mentioning in the release notes, because it's not
 very usable if I have to specify an image file for each email that I
 send. Does that seem fair? 

Point taken :)

-Srini.
 
  Matthew: 
  I was not aware of the ~/.face thing. I will try to use it in the next
  release (after the freeze is over).
 

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:32 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
 Hey Murray,
 
 On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 18:36 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
  Evolution developers, please do try to find the time for this. You
  deserve that the world knows about your hard work.
   
  I have added everything to release notes wiki page. Sorry, I was
 confused with
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-July/msg00173.html and 
 just updated to Roadmap only.

Thanks. I didn't realise that you had updated the RoadMap. Not everybody
has done that.

So, we have the following:

 * Improved SPAM filtering with plugable junk filters 

How is this different to before, from the user's point of view? I
thought we always had SpamAssassin and BogoFilter plugins.

 * Backup restore support

What does this actually allow the user to do?

 * Improved e-mail notification 

Is this just about the notification area icon? By the way, I notice that
you can't turn that off from the main preferences - you have to disable
the plugin, when you know that it's a plugin.

 * Improved Gtk+ Printing support for mails 

What does the improvement look like to the user?

 * System Timezone Integration 

Does this mean that evolution no longer asks the user for their timezone
at first use? Are there any other user-noticeable changes?

 * Attachment reminder for message composer

Could you tell us more about this? What does it do, and when?

 * Evolution Exchange
  * Better offline support

How is this noticeable? Is it just a performance improvement, or has the
behaviour changed? I mean, how would the user notice this?
  * Delegation support

This allows you to forward your emails to a colleague while you are
away, right? Do you have a screenshot of that preference for us, using
the standard clearlooks theme? Not many of us are running exchange.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:15 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:32 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
  Hey Murray,
  
  On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 18:36 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
   Evolution developers, please do try to find the time for this. You
   deserve that the world knows about your hard work.

   I have added everything to release notes wiki page. Sorry, I was
  confused with
  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-July/msg00173.html 
  and just updated to Roadmap only.
 
 Thanks. I didn't realise that you had updated the RoadMap. Not everybody
 has done that.
 
 So, we have the following:
 
  * Improved SPAM filtering with plugable junk filters 
 
 How is this different to before, from the user's point of view? I
 thought we always had SpamAssassin and BogoFilter plugins.
 
  * Backup restore support
 
 What does this actually allow the user to do?
 
  * Improved e-mail notification 
 
 Is this just about the notification area icon? By the way, I notice that
 you can't turn that off from the main preferences - you have to disable
 the plugin, when you know that it's a plugin.
 
  * Improved Gtk+ Printing support for mails 
 
 What does the improvement look like to the user?
 
  * System Timezone Integration 
 
 Does this mean that evolution no longer asks the user for their timezone
 at first use? Are there any other user-noticeable changes?
 
  * Attachment reminder for message composer
 
 Could you tell us more about this? What does it do, and when?
 
  * Evolution Exchange
   * Better offline support
 
 How is this noticeable? Is it just a performance improvement, or has the
 behaviour changed? I mean, how would the user notice this?
   * Delegation support
 
 This allows you to forward your emails to a colleague while you are
 away, right? Do you have a screenshot of that preference for us, using
 the standard clearlooks theme? Not many of us are running exchange.

And these items were just added:

 * Magic space bar support
 * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
 * Calendar Search improvements


They really need details so we can describe what the user will
experience differently to the old evolution version.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
   * FACE header and Contact image in preview pane
 
 Evolution has support to attach FACE header while sending e-mails and
 extract the header while receiving and show it in the preview pane.
 http://bp3.blogger.com/_G_VBnbGWMzs/Rpy_2WCctrI/BGo/qWewaum0Z-A/s1600-h/ZFace.jpg

How can I tell evolution to use a particular image when I send emails? I
don't see this in the preferences.

 Evolution can also fetch the image of the sender from addressbook and
 show it in the preview pane.
 http://gnomebangalore.org/~sragavan/2.12/contact-image.png


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 10:00 +, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
   * Calendar Search improvements
 
 Calendar search interface provides support for advanced search similar
 to mail and addressbook. The searches can also be saved and edited.
 The
 Show options provides quick access to Next 7 days' appointments and
 Active appointments.

Where can I see these Show options in the UI?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 15:07 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
  Calendar search interface provides support for advanced search similar
  to mail and addressbook. The searches can also be saved and edited.
  The Show options provides quick access to Next 7 days' appointments and
  Active appointments.
 
 Where can I see these Show options in the UI?

If you're running Evolution 2.11.90, it's right above the main calendar,
similar to where the Show combo box is on the Mail component (although
it looks like we have a padding issue around it).

Matthew Barnes

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-27 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 11:37 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 
 
 Shouldn't it read from ~/.face by default, so that it's nicely
 integrated with the About Me app?
It was Sankar's hackweek idea project. I really don't remember the full
details of it. Off to you Sankar. I remeber saying Sankar that there
should be a default photo and a over-rid-able option as well. Dont
know/think if that made it.

-Srini.
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Call for Release Notes

2007-08-14 Thread Murray Cumming
Dear Evolution developers,

as usual, you've done a huge amount of work on Evolution during GNOME
2.19. But, as usual, we don't know what the new features, UI changes, or
major bug-fixes are. Please do add something to 
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/ReleaseNotes
so that we can tell the world.

http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/evolution/trunk/NEWS?view=markup
is pretty good, but we still think that you are the best people to
decide what's really significant.

On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 20:24 -0400, Jorge O. Castro wrote:
 GNOMErs,
 
 It's that time of the year where you guys can show off all the work
 you've been putting into your modules.
 
 http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/ReleaseNotes
 
 At the above URL you will find the beginnings of the release notes.
 Please begin to document the major changes to your modules on this
 page. Our crack team of volunteers will then transform your geeky
 bullets into something that we can show off to our users. I've started
 that process here:
 
 http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/ReleaseNotes/Draft
 
 In the past Davyd Madeley did an awesome[1] job[2] translating the
 release notes into something consumable by the Common Man(tm). Our
 goal is is to use his notes as a baseline of what to do and crank up
 the awesomeness of the release notes to the next level.
 
 You can help by filing up ReleaseNotes with your changes. Those
 aspiring authors in the crowd can also help by contributing to the
 Drafts Page. We could use a few bodies to dig through changelogs, take
 screenshots, etc. etc.

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