[Evolution-hackers] Testing Evolution 3.x

2011-02-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Hello people,

The Help-About on my Evolution mail menu still reads 'Evolution 2.32.1'
but I see Development is now at 3.x.  Is there anyway I can experience
the future Evolution Mail Client while you guys do your thing?  Is the
risk of test-running still high?

I'm presently test-running Gnome-shell (jhbuild) but I'm running Fedora
14. I might be able to chip in one or two after experiencing status-quo.
I suspect that would be helpful.

What do you say?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Testing Evolution 3.x

2011-02-08 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 14:23 +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
 The Help-About on my Evolution mail menu still reads 'Evolution 2.32.1'
 but I see Development is now at 3.x.  Is there anyway I can experience
 the future Evolution Mail Client while you guys do your thing?  Is the
 risk of test-running still high?
 
 I'm presently test-running Gnome-shell (jhbuild) but I'm running Fedora
 14. I might be able to chip in one or two after experiencing status-quo.
 I suspect that would be helpful.

If you're already using jhbuild and it's still building 2.32 apps, make
sure you're using the GNOME 3 module sets listed here:

http://git.gnome.org/browse/jhbuild/tree/modulesets

I don't use jhbuild myself or I'd tell you more about how to set that
up, but I'm sure Google can answer that.


Here's another, perhaps more convenient option:

Fedora desktop team just conducted a GNOME 3 test day and the live image
they produced for it includes GNOME Shell and Evolution 2.91.6:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-02-03_GNOME3_Alpha#Live_image

If you have a spare USB stick or blank DVD, make yourself a live image,
boot it, and you can play around in GNOME 3 with no risk to your system.


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Testing Evolution 3.x

2011-02-08 Thread Frederic Crozat
2011/2/8 Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com:
 On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 14:23 +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
 The Help-About on my Evolution mail menu still reads 'Evolution 2.32.1'
 but I see Development is now at 3.x.  Is there anyway I can experience
 the future Evolution Mail Client while you guys do your thing?  Is the
 risk of test-running still high?

 I'm presently test-running Gnome-shell (jhbuild) but I'm running Fedora
 14. I might be able to chip in one or two after experiencing status-quo.
 I suspect that would be helpful.

 If you're already using jhbuild and it's still building 2.32 apps, make
 sure you're using the GNOME 3 module sets listed here:

 http://git.gnome.org/browse/jhbuild/tree/modulesets

 I don't use jhbuild myself or I'd tell you more about how to set that
 up, but I'm sure Google can answer that.


 Here's another, perhaps more convenient option:

 Fedora desktop team just conducted a GNOME 3 test day and the live image
 they produced for it includes GNOME Shell and Evolution 2.91.6:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-02-03_GNOME3_Alpha#Live_image

 If you have a spare USB stick or blank DVD, make yourself a live image,
 boot it, and you can play around in GNOME 3 with no risk to your system.

Or you can also use GNOME3 live image : http://gnome3.org/tryit.html :)

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Testing Evolution 3.x

2011-02-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 09:18 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 14:23 +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
  The Help-About on my Evolution mail menu still reads 'Evolution 2.32.1'
  but I see Development is now at 3.x.  Is there anyway I can experience
  the future Evolution Mail Client while you guys do your thing?  Is the
  risk of test-running still high?
  
  I'm presently test-running Gnome-shell (jhbuild) but I'm running Fedora
  14. I might be able to chip in one or two after experiencing status-quo.
  I suspect that would be helpful.
 
 If you're already using jhbuild and it's still building 2.32 apps, make
 sure you're using the GNOME 3 module sets listed here:
 
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/jhbuild/tree/modulesets
 
 I don't use jhbuild myself or I'd tell you more about how to set that
 up, but I'm sure Google can answer that.
 

okay, I'll research that.  Hoping that the results will allow
sand-boxing and leave F14 functional.

 
 Here's another, perhaps more convenient option:
 
 Fedora desktop team just conducted a GNOME 3 test day and the live image
 they produced for it includes GNOME Shell and Evolution 2.91.6:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-02-03_GNOME3_Alpha#Live_image
 
 If you have a spare USB stick or blank DVD, make yourself a live image,
 boot it, and you can play around in GNOME 3 with no risk to your system.
 
 

I downloaded the ISO that day and couldn't boot it (x86_64) ...
something to do with USB keyboard and mouse.  I'll give that a try on my
Dell Precision laptop.  Thanks for the quick response.


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Testing Evolution 3.x

2011-02-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 15:21 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 
 Or you can also use GNOME3 live image : http://gnome3.org/tryit.html :)
 

BLUNDER 101:


I know this might upset the geeks but I screwed up big time.  The
Gnome-3 ISO wasn't cooperating when burnt so I decided to use the USB
option (was giving me similar errors as with the fedora test ISOs).  So
what is the big blunder, you may ask?

Everything was going fine until the usb-image-writer stopped at 100% for
a few minutes.  It appeared to have hanged so  I quit the terminal
and pulled the drive.  I now have a stick with CD-ROM partition having
incomplete data and I don't know how to revert to the beginning. Hope
someone here can give me an idea how to remove the CD-ROM partition so I
can exercise 'patience' in full and get the desired results

... OR is there no hope for this stick? Its my favourite (16GB). Gparted
and the Disk Utility (F14) is powerless in this situation.

:( 

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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:twohot

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Testing Evolution 3.x

2011-02-08 Thread Frederic Crozat
2011/2/8 Onyeibo Oku two...@fedoraproject.org:
 On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 15:21 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:

 Or you can also use GNOME3 live image : http://gnome3.org/tryit.html :)


 BLUNDER 101:
 

 I know this might upset the geeks but I screwed up big time.  The
 Gnome-3 ISO wasn't cooperating when burnt so I decided to use the USB
 option (was giving me similar errors as with the fedora test ISOs).  So
 what is the big blunder, you may ask?

 Everything was going fine until the usb-image-writer stopped at 100% for
 a few minutes.  It appeared to have hanged so  I quit the terminal
 and pulled the drive.  I now have a stick with CD-ROM partition having
 incomplete data and I don't know how to revert to the beginning. Hope
 someone here can give me an idea how to remove the CD-ROM partition so I
 can exercise 'patience' in full and get the desired results

This depends on kernel buffering and usb stick write speed.

You shouldn't have removed the key.

Just re-run the tool and really wait until it is complete and
everything will be fine.

If you want to reset it for another use, run dd if=/dev/zero
of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=10 (where X is the letter corresponding to the
stick,
you can check with the tool) and you should be able to repartition it
(after unplugging and replugging it).

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Testing Evolution 3.x

2011-02-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 21:21 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:
 This depends on kernel buffering and usb stick write speed.
 
 You shouldn't have removed the key.
 

Figured that out

 Just re-run the tool and really wait until it is complete and
 everything will be fine.

Not really.  I get two CD-ROM drives instead -- One functional and the
other (the first) dysfunctional.

 If you want to reset it for another use, run dd if=/dev/zero
 of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=10 (where X is the letter corresponding to the
 stick,
 you can check with the tool) and you should be able to repartition it
 (after unplugging and replugging it).

Thanks.  I was able to reformat it afterwards.  All is fine once more.
I'm very grateful.  I should be reporting my experience with Gnome-3 and
Evolution 3.0 shortly.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Testing Evolution 3.x

2011-02-08 Thread Onyeibo Oku
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 22:16 +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote:

 Thanks.  I was able to reformat it afterwards.  All is fine once more.
 I'm very grateful.  I should be reporting my experience with Gnome-3 and
 Evolution 3.0 shortly.
 

HOW DID IT GO?:
--

It didn't happen!
The live image fired up alright ... nothing new as I have been
test-running gnome-shell already built as per
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell#building

I didn't find Evolution on there.  Sadly, the network manager couldn't
recognize my HSDPA wireless dongle.  Apparently, some bits of it are yet
to be ported.  That meant I could not install evolution either.

I'll have to explore the jhbuild option for testing Evolution.  I'll
keep you guys posted.

Regards

Onyeibo

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