Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 13:02, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 13:17, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Although, as said in http://www.uiaccess.com/access_links.html#color, we can come with a color palette that works for nearly everyone. I'll have a look. I think that the most important

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 14:39, Kevin Cullis wrote: Take look at a Googlized search: Hundreds of resources are available on the Internet covering accessibility and related issues. The following resources will be helpful to those seeking information about accessibility issues.

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 00:08, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 12:35, Calum Benson wrote: - Ensure there's an option to only use colours picked from the theme... this should be pretty much a requirement anyway, to cater for people who need to use the high/low contrast themes.

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Cullis
Take look at a Googlized search: Hundreds of resources are available on the Internet covering accessibility and related issues. The following resources will be helpful to those seeking information about accessibility issues. http://www.uiaccess.com/access_links.html#color Kevin On Wed,

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 13:28, Calum Benson wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 12:19, Rodrigo Moya wrote: yes, I also think so. Having also the possibility to select the colors makes this usable for everyone, doesn't it? It should, although I dont't recall exactly what the 508 wording is on

[Evolution-hackers] Re: gnome-panel calendar integration was Re: [Evolution-hackers]summary, gdeskcal ideas

2003-08-14 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi, Am Mon, 2003-08-04 um 22.50 schrieb William Jon McCann: Here's the way I see it working for now: * user double clicks on a date * clock applet checks to see if appointment_tool is set in gconf and is available * appointment_tool is spawned with the date as an argument This looks

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 00:45, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 00:08, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 12:35, Calum Benson wrote: - Ensure there's an option to only use colours picked from the theme... this should be pretty much a requirement anyway, to cater for

Re: [Evolution-hackers] server-side rule notes

2003-08-14 Thread Not Zed
I've got some thoughts/class proposal on http://primates.ximian.com/~notzed/projects.html#camel-filter if anyone cares to comment ... On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 08:59, Dan Winship wrote: Actually mainly i'm curious as to how exchange defines its rules - are they somewhat sieve (and for that

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 11:22, Rodrigo Moya wrote: But yes, we can find a place to put the name of the calendar besides the appointment's summary. What about appending it to the end of the description? E.g. instead of just saying Company meeting it would say Company meeting (Work), where Work is

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Anna Marie Dirks
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 11:59, Rodrigo Moya wrote: no, I think Luis was talking about my screenshots: http://rodrigo.gnome-db.org/news.php?13/August/2003 those are real, not mockups, believe me :-) Ok.. still, the fact that these represent a very early implementation which is still

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 13:17, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Although, as said in http://www.uiaccess.com/access_links.html#color, we can come with a color palette that works for nearly everyone. I'll have a look. I think that the most important thing we are naturally doing is to have the background

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Re: gnome-panel calendar integration wasRe: [Evolution-hackers] summary, gdeskcal ideas

2003-08-14 Thread William Jon McCann
Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 22:50, William Jon McCann wrote: I have implemented a couple of prerequisite features for the gnome-panel clock applet to use Evo calendar. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118913 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119109 We'll see what

[Evolution-hackers] OO.o addressbook integration ...

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys, I'm just fighting addressbook integration in OO.o - my problem is that in order to use LDAP data sources I have to link to mozilla. Unfortunately, the required mozilla is a heavily patched version that we can't possibly ship [ binning profile locking, mangling up some of the

[Evolution-hackers] Re: gnome-panel calendar integration was Re: [Evolution-hackers]summary, gdeskcal ideas

2003-08-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 13:50, William Jon McCann wrote: * appointment_tool could look something like this http://acs.pha.jhu.edu/~mccannwj/evo/Screenshot-appointment-tool.png and simply list the appointments for the day that it pulled from Evolution [...] Any comments before I begin? My one

[Evolution-hackers] Evolution contacts don't retain experimental vcard fields?

2003-08-14 Thread Patrick Gerzanics
I've been working on importing a variety of vcards into Evolution. However, I've noticed that any 'experimental' fields are not retained by Evolution. Example: I import this vcard: BEGIN:VCARD FN:Test Experimental N;INITIALS=E.T.:Experimental;Test

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Gordon
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 11:43, William Jon McCann wrote: Joe Shaw wrote: I'm color-blind, and highly contrasting colors would probably make it usable, but things like blue-versus-purple or bright-green-versus-yellow or cyan-versus-white are schemes that would cause problems for me

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Re: [Evolution] Evolution Blog

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
Sorry Ettore, this day is already known as _my_ birthday -- please use another date cause my parents hold the rights on prior art... ;*)) Woah! Happy birthday, Guenther! :-) -- Ettore ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Calum Benson
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 15:59, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: The critical thing here is to be sure we have enough contrast. So all bg colors should be rather light, and the text should be black. So that everyone can at least *read* the events. By definition however, people who choose the High

Re: [Evolution-hackers] server-side rule notes

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Winship
Actually mainly i'm curious as to how exchange defines its rules - are they somewhat sieve (and for that matter, imap-search) like, in that you have a bunch of specific tests/checks with and/or/not boolean containers, or are they a bit camel-like in that you can do almost-arbitrary expression

[Evolution-hackers] libsoup stable branch

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Winship
I've tagged a stable (yes, those are sarcastic quotes) branch for libsoup, libsoup-2-0-branch, which everyone should now be using for Evolution/Connector 1.4, Red Carpet, and (until further notice) Evolution/Connector 2.0. -- Dan ___ evolution-hackers

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Thoughts on Tasks

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Williams
It seems everyone is being visionary about Evolution 2.0 these days but about all other components than the Tasks component. Doesn't anyone care about tasks? Me! Tasks (to me) are the most important part of the software. But what your really describing sounds more like projects. Have you

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 12:35, Calum Benson wrote: - Ensure there's an option to only use colours picked from the theme... this should be pretty much a requirement anyway, to cater for people who need to use the high/low contrast themes. (Although for the high contrast themes most of the colours

[Evolution-hackers] gal branched

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Kestner
Yesterday I created an evolution-1-4-branch for gal. Obviously, this is the stable branch for evo 1.4.x bugfixing/translations. Today, I committed patches to make gal produce libgal-2.2.so and libgal-a11y-2.2.so on trunk. Development of the gal-2.1.x release line for evo 2.0 will now happen on

[Evolution-hackers] version cleanup in bugzilla

2003-08-14 Thread Luis Villa
I noticed that you guys again have a large pileup of versions in bugzilla- would you like me to compress 1.0.* down to one version again? Just a thought- Luis ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Evolution-hackers] making contacs more useful

2003-08-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
Il mer, 2003-08-06 alle 19:03, Adam Williams ha scritto: a daunting task to have this in an addressbook UI, or to put code specifically for this stuff in the addressbook itself. As it turns out, I am also hacking on an Instant Messenger client that will integrate with the evolution

Re: [Evolution-hackers] missing Evolution 1.4.4 source RPMs

2003-08-14 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 11:00, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: any way for us to find out more about the types of techniques you are working on? anything that might help debug this beast would be cool :-) http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~liblit/sampler/ I've been talking with Ben on and off- it's seriously

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 19:42, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 12:31, Rodrigo Moya wrote: 5 is too few, since I guess people will start subscribing to many calendars once we can view multiple calendars in one view, 5 is just too few colors, since a lot of calendars would have

[Evolution-hackers] Evolution Default Free/Busy URL

2003-08-14 Thread Patrick Gerzanics
I was wondering if their is the ability to specify a default free/busy URL that would apply for all contacts if they did not have individual free/busy URLs specified as part of their vcard? This would make it far easier for our organization to schedule since we wouldn't each have to manually

[Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Luis Villa
I was perusing rodrigo's blog a bit, and noticed the design choice to use colorized calendars to do the overlaying. I'd talk to the a11y guys to be certain, but that's likely to be an a11y nightmare- they strongly urge against solely using color to distinguish things, since if you are color-blind,

[Evolution-hackers] Ximian Bugzilla Down

2003-08-14 Thread Not Zed
Hi all, Just incase you didn't notice/etc, Ximian's bugzilla (which is where evolution bugs reside) has gone bums-up and will be out of action until at least some time tomorrow. An undefined hardware failure is the cause, and hopefully nothing has been lost. Michael

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Spam filtering thoughts

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Toshok
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:32, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: Yeah, easy. Although then we run the risk of people who aren't using spam filters being duped by spam adding that header and saying it isn't spam. So it would probably have to be an explicit option for environments where the

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Calum Benson
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 12:19, Rodrigo Moya wrote: yes, I also think so. Having also the possibility to select the colors makes this usable for everyone, doesn't it? It should, although I dont't recall exactly what the 508 wording is on these matters. I seem to recall the main thrust of Bill's

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 07:44, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Anders mentioned in IRC that there's a bug filed in gtk about each theme providing a number of colors that can be distinguishable from each other. I suppose that would be, if at all, in GTK 2.4, so we can't rely on that, but once we've got this

Re: [Evolution-hackers] making contacs more useful

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Williams
a daunting task to have this in an addressbook UI, or to put code specifically for this stuff in the addressbook itself. As it turns out, I am also hacking on an Instant Messenger client that will integrate with the evolution addressbook, and calendar. As soon as the public API

Re: [Evolution-hackers] missing Evolution 1.4.4 source RPMs

2003-08-14 Thread Ben Liblit
Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: any way for us to find out more about the types of techniques you are working on? anything that might help debug this beast would be cool :-) In brief, the instrumented code makes a large number of wild guesses about interesting behavior, and counts how often these

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 12:31, Rodrigo Moya wrote: 5 is too few, since I guess people will start subscribing to many calendars once we can view multiple calendars in one view, 5 is just too few colors, since a lot of calendars would have the same color. I think a good number is between 12 and

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 11:06, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 10:59, Luis Villa wrote: I don't. Unfortunately, Section 508 does not give exceptions for 'well, we couldn't come up with any other way of doing it.' Well there must be a way... Outlook 2k3 uses colorization too

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:09, Joe Shaw wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 10:43, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: For color-blind people, I am not sure... We can make sure the stock colors have a reasonable amount of contrast differences and allow the user to configure different colors. But I don't think

Re: [Evolution-hackers] missing Evolution 1.4.4 source RPMs

2003-08-14 Thread Ben Liblit
Rodney Dawes wrote: ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/source/evolution The 1.4.4 tarball in that directory is incomplete from the perspective of RPM packaging. It is missing evolution.spec. I am building Evolution RPMs which need to be as close as possible to drop-in replacements for Ximian's builds,

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 07:02, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: I think that the most important thing we are naturally doing is to have the background colors be light and have dark text (well, the theme text color) Actually, using the theme color there is probably wrong, since if we are going to hardcode

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 16:38, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 07:02, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: I think that the most important thing we are naturally doing is to have the background colors be light and have dark text (well, the theme text color) Actually, using the theme color

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Anna Marie Dirks
Luis: We (meaning the Evolution development team) care just as much as you do about making Gnome accessible. Please, rest assured that our intentions are to work within the established accessibility guidelines (and the Human Interface Guidelines) to make sure that Evolution is usable by

Re: [Evolution-hackers] filter refactor, rule parts

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Winship
The main difference here is that any changes to the filter types would require a change to the code. That doesn't seem like a huge problem. On the other hand, it would make it easier to write coded plugins to implement new types Yes, although they'd have to be backend-specific. But there's

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Thoughts on Tasks

2003-08-14 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 20:46, Morten Skarsholm Risager wrote: *A convenient way to convert an email into a task so that I can make notes below it. I'd love to have this, it would be awesome. Well. actually something like an ability to attach files to a task and a way to make an email to a task,

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Spam filtering thoughts

2003-08-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 16:22, Christopher Ness wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 17:48, Not Zed wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 16:19, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: * We give the user a way to say what happens to messages detected as spam; i.e. whether they should stay in the folder, or

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 08:57, Luis Villa wrote: I was perusing rodrigo's blog a bit, and noticed the design choice to use colorized calendars to do the overlaying. I'd talk to the a11y guys to be certain, but that's likely to be an a11y nightmare- they strongly urge against solely using color

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread Ettore Perazzoli
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 14:19, Dan Winship wrote: well, then I guess we can use an extra thing to distinguish this in accessibility-enabled installations. I can't think of a better way (in the non-accessible case) to differentiate the events, since icons are already being used for

Re: [Evolution-hackers] note on colorized calendars

2003-08-14 Thread William Jon McCann
Joe Shaw wrote: I'm color-blind, and highly contrasting colors would probably make it usable, but things like blue-versus-purple or bright-green-versus-yellow or cyan-versus-white are schemes that would cause problems for me personally. I'd highly recommend using some other additional indicator,

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Re: gnome-panel calendar integration wasRe: [Evolution-hackers] summary, gdeskcal ideas

2003-08-14 Thread William Jon McCann
Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 21:01, William Jon McCann wrote: Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 19:46, William Jon McCann wrote: snip for editing, you'll have to activate the OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_CompEditorFactory component and use the editNew and editExisting

[Fwd: RE: [Evolution-hackers] making contacs more useful]

2003-08-14 Thread Marius Andreiana
Edgardo replied only to me, forwarding. Yes, LDAP would do the job with all the extra fields needed. Problem: evolution can only view LDAP contacts, no adding/editing. And who provides the UI for editing the extra fields I listed as examples? How about using those extra fields ( contacting