Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-09 Thread Michal G.
Hi,

If you are looking to get eds/evo rid of gtk, you are proned to be
 lost. Instead, use the dbus api and write a email client in qt. You
 can glance it https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-email. I
 worked on a qt/qml based email client which spoke to the email daemon
 over dbus. It is obsolete atm.


Thanks for help. I look at this code and it is very interesting from my
point of view. It is very close
to this what I am trying to achieve. I am not going to use Qml, but I can
take it as an example
and develop my own app. As I saw Qml is related with Qt QMF component.
From Qt Labs description it sounds like very useful framework.
Does it means that this application is using Evolution only to store mails
and all
connection with mail servers (POP, IMAP, SMTP) is handled by QMF?

Could you tell me if meego-app-calendar is done in similar way?
http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-calendar

As I saw both projects do not have any activity in last days. Do you know
if
those projects are still alive or maybe developed as closed-code?

Michal
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-09 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Hi Michal,

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 If you are looking to get eds/evo rid of gtk, you are proned to be
 lost. Instead, use the dbus api and write a email client in qt. You
 can glance it https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-email. I
 worked on a qt/qml based email client which spoke to the email daemon
 over dbus. It is obsolete atm.


 Thanks for help. I look at this code and it is very interesting from my
 point of view. It is very close
 to this what I am trying to achieve. I am not going to use Qml, but I can
 take it as an example

My purpose for showing the code is to look at it as an example :)

 and develop my own app. As I saw Qml is related with Qt QMF component.
 From Qt Labs description it sounds like very useful framework.
 Does it means that this application is using Evolution only to store mails
 and all
 connection with mail servers (POP, IMAP, SMTP) is handled by QMF?


The code I showed you, uses e-mail-factory for everything. It replaced QMF.

 Could you tell me if meego-app-calendar is done in similar way?
 http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-calendar

 As I saw both projects do not have any activity in last days. Do you know if
 those projects are still alive or maybe developed as closed-code?

The code is dead, I dont have any closed source on them. I have no
idea on the calendar stuff. Sorry.

-Srini
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-09 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 09:57 +0100, Michal G. wrote:
 If you are looking to get eds/evo rid of gtk, you are proned
 to be
 lost. Instead, use the dbus api and write a email client in
 qt. You
 can glance it
 https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-email. I
 worked on a qt/qml based email client which spoke to the email
 daemon
 over dbus. It is obsolete atm.
 
 Thanks for help. I look at this code and it is very interesting from
 my point of view. It is very close
 to this what I am trying to achieve.

Hi,
I hope you'll be fine if I step in, thus just a little thoughts:
You do not want to use evolution at all. The only thing from it you want
(to use/rewrite for your needs) is the EMailSession, which is subclass
of CamelSession. This serves for mailer part to work properly and is the
central point of all mailer functionality. Then you create an
EAccountList, which holds list of all configured accounts (note some of
them can be disabled), and with those UIDs you create CamelServices,
which are structures to communicate between your instance and the
server. There are special UIDs, like local, to access locally stored
mails (those under On This Computer in Evolution). Of course, it's not
that simple, but it's roughly about it.

As far as I understand this, the e-mail-factory project does basically
this, it extracts EMailSession out of evolution to evolution-data-server
and defines new (DBus) API to access its functionality from outside, by
any client using the new API. The e-mail-factory does more things, but
regarding things you are looking for, it might be it.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-06 Thread Michal G.
Hi,

I need more support as Evolution is huge project and I feel that I am lost.
Last days, I just went through code and I compiled EDS but on X86 without
Gtk+.
Thus, I modified some configuration files and main makefile to be able to
compile.

Next, I tried to compile Evolution. But there is a lot of  dependencies to
UI (gtk),
which  I would like to remove. I would like to replace it for instance with
GUI
written in Qt.

I have question regarding functionality and place where should I look for
source code.
I think that main components on which I should focus are following folders
- libemail-utils
- libemail-engine
- mail (I am not sure if I should consider this folder)

and there is folder modules/mail - what kind of functionality is kept there?

Is there other place where code related to email is located?

And does Evolution uses system settings for network configuration as
default or
it must be configured somehow?

Michal
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-06 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I need more support as Evolution is huge project and I feel that I am lost.
 Last days, I just went through code and I compiled EDS but on X86 without
 Gtk+.
 Thus, I modified some configuration files and main makefile to be able to
 compile.

 Next, I tried to compile Evolution. But there is a lot of  dependencies to
 UI (gtk),
 which  I would like to remove. I would like to replace it for instance with
 GUI
 written in Qt.

If you are looking to get eds/evo rid of gtk, you are proned to be
lost. Instead, use the dbus api and write a email client in qt. You
can glance it https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-email. I
worked on a qt/qml based email client which spoke to the email daemon
over dbus. It is obsolete atm.


 I have question regarding functionality and place where should I look for
 source code.
 I think that main components on which I should focus are following folders
 - libemail-utils
 - libemail-engine
 - mail (I am not sure if I should consider this folder)

 and there is folder modules/mail - what kind of functionality is kept there?

Its for the UI of evolution  its logics.

-Srini

 Is there other place where code related to email is located?

 And does Evolution uses system settings for network configuration as default
 or
 it must be configured somehow?

 Michal
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-02 Thread Michal G.
Hi Srini,

I will go in direction of modifying build process to be able to remove all
dependencies to libraries that are not available on my SDK.
I think it should be possible, but still I am not sure.
My aim is to compile EDS (only mails) with Evolution (only libemail-engine
+ ??) and your e-mail-factory.
Then I'm going to provide some GUI.
Communication between those components should be done via DBUS.
I am still no aware how content of mail will be visible for user. Or in
other words, who will render its content.

In addition, I need to estimate how big package (backend) I will have after
successful compilation.
Could you help me in estimation?

Thanks in advance for advices.

Michal

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I tried to compile EDS with my SDK and unfortunately I did not success.
 I run
 autogen.sh --host=arm-oe-linux-gnueabi --enable-gtk-doc-html=no
 --enable-goa=no --enable-nntp=no --disable-glibtest --disable-weather
 and during checking of configuration following errors about missing
 libraries occurs
 - gtk+-3.0
 - gmodule-2.0
 - gconf-2.0
 - libxml 2.0
 - libsoup-2.4
 - libgdata
 - gio
 - libdb
 - and some other stuff related to NSS and NSPR.

 I removed all those checking from configuration.ac to be able to generate
 Makefile.
 Some of those libraries could be added to my system, but not all (for
 instance gtk+).
 Do you think that I will be able to compile EDS without gtk+?

 BTW, does 3.6 cycle should be release around September of 2012 or later?

 Michal


 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.orgwrote:

 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Nice to meet the author of Anjal :)
 
  I went through code and Wiki yesterday and I am starting to understand
 just
  a little piece of very high architecture.
  I will try to compile EDS with my SDK for my ARM device. But first I
 need to
  familiarize with build process.
 
  As I understand within EDS there is mail engine - this Camel library
 which I
  could use and link dynamically with my GUI.
  Do you know if there is simple example that shows how to send email
 message?

 Camel is just the mail access/storage library. I meant
 libemail-engine.so in evolution/ project, which runs mails accounts,
 checks for mails etc.

 
  Probably better way will be to use your e-mail-factory. Then I will be
 able
  to split GUI and Mail engine on two different processes.
  Will your e-mail factory be an official part of Evolution soon?

 e-mail-factory should be in eds in 3.6 cycle, but that depends on how
 much effort I get to merge evolution to use the mail daemon.

 
  I do not understand why you advice me to checkout branch of evolution. I
  thought that all data engines (mail and calendar) are covered by EDS.

 e-mail-factory needs libemail-engine, which is in evolution. Evolution
 needs EDS.

  And when I compile it I will be able to connect it with my GUI. It
 could be
  done over DBUS if I have two processes or just dynamic linking to GUI.
  Do I think correctly?

 You GUI should speak over dbus to the daemon (which is a process by
 itself) to fetch/access mails.

 
  Could you say, point me a document that describe how EDS store mails and
  calendar data. Is it some own database in file or some other mechanism?

 I don't remember any doc for this, what ever you find could be
 obsolete in some form I fear.

 -Srini



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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-02 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Srini,

 I will go in direction of modifying build process to be able to remove all
 dependencies to libraries that are not available on my SDK.
 I think it should be possible, but still I am not sure.
 My aim is to compile EDS (only mails) with Evolution (only libemail-engine +
 ??) and your e-mail-factory.
 Then I'm going to provide some GUI.
 Communication between those components should be done via DBUS.
 I am still no aware how content of mail will be visible for user. Or in
 other words, who will render its content.


Evolution uses gtkhtml for rendering mails. Anjal used webkit. You can
also use MozEmbed.

 In addition, I need to estimate how big package (backend) I will have after
 successful compilation.
 Could you help me in estimation?

Big in the sense size? I have no idea tbh.

-Srini

 Thanks in advance for advices.

 Michal


 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I tried to compile EDS with my SDK and unfortunately I did not success.
 I run
 autogen.sh --host=arm-oe-linux-gnueabi --enable-gtk-doc-html=no
 --enable-goa=no --enable-nntp=no --disable-glibtest --disable-weather
 and during checking of configuration following errors about missing
 libraries occurs
 - gtk+-3.0
 - gmodule-2.0
 - gconf-2.0
 - libxml 2.0
 - libsoup-2.4
 - libgdata
 - gio
 - libdb
 - and some other stuff related to NSS and NSPR.

 I removed all those checking from configuration.ac to be able to generate
 Makefile.
 Some of those libraries could be added to my system, but not all (for
 instance gtk+).
 Do you think that I will be able to compile EDS without gtk+?

 BTW, does 3.6 cycle should be release around September of 2012 or later?

 Michal


 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.org
 wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Nice to meet the author of Anjal :)
 
  I went through code and Wiki yesterday and I am starting to understand
  just
  a little piece of very high architecture.
  I will try to compile EDS with my SDK for my ARM device. But first I
  need to
  familiarize with build process.
 
  As I understand within EDS there is mail engine - this Camel library
  which I
  could use and link dynamically with my GUI.
  Do you know if there is simple example that shows how to send email
  message?

 Camel is just the mail access/storage library. I meant
 libemail-engine.so in evolution/ project, which runs mails accounts,
 checks for mails etc.

 
  Probably better way will be to use your e-mail-factory. Then I will be
  able
  to split GUI and Mail engine on two different processes.
  Will your e-mail factory be an official part of Evolution soon?

 e-mail-factory should be in eds in 3.6 cycle, but that depends on how
 much effort I get to merge evolution to use the mail daemon.

 
  I do not understand why you advice me to checkout branch of evolution.
  I
  thought that all data engines (mail and calendar) are covered by EDS.

 e-mail-factory needs libemail-engine, which is in evolution. Evolution
 needs EDS.

  And when I compile it I will be able to connect it with my GUI. It
  could be
  done over DBUS if I have two processes or just dynamic linking to GUI.
  Do I think correctly?

 You GUI should speak over dbus to the daemon (which is a process by
 itself) to fetch/access mails.

 
  Could you say, point me a document that describe how EDS store mails
  and
  calendar data. Is it some own database in file or some other mechanism?

 I don't remember any doc for this, what ever you find could be
 obsolete in some form I fear.

 -Srini



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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-02 Thread Michal G.
Then I will use Webkit. It is available and I was doing simple browser with
it.
For now, I have Qt port of Webkit and Cairo graphic.

Regarding size, I wonder about footprint of Evolution. I checked on my
Ubuntu and
it is about 12 MB. Hopefully it will required less space after removing of
some parts.

I found also some interesting post about EDS.
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-June/msg00028.html
As I understand there is some work done to make EDS more UI independent.
Do you know if this was done, or work is in progress and in which release
it will be?

And as release 3.4 is planned for March 2012. Does it means that 3.6 should
be available after
six months, so around September 2012. Does evolution follows GNOME
schedules
(new stable version every six months)?

Michal


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.orgwrote:

 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Srini,
 
  I will go in direction of modifying build process to be able to remove
 all
  dependencies to libraries that are not available on my SDK.
  I think it should be possible, but still I am not sure.
  My aim is to compile EDS (only mails) with Evolution (only
 libemail-engine +
  ??) and your e-mail-factory.
  Then I'm going to provide some GUI.
  Communication between those components should be done via DBUS.
  I am still no aware how content of mail will be visible for user. Or in
  other words, who will render its content.
 

 Evolution uses gtkhtml for rendering mails. Anjal used webkit. You can
 also use MozEmbed.

  In addition, I need to estimate how big package (backend) I will have
 after
  successful compilation.
  Could you help me in estimation?

 Big in the sense size? I have no idea tbh.

 -Srini

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-02-02 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Then I will use Webkit. It is available and I was doing simple browser with
 it.
 For now, I have Qt port of Webkit and Cairo graphic.

 Regarding size, I wonder about footprint of Evolution. I checked on my
 Ubuntu and
 it is about 12 MB. Hopefully it will required less space after removing of
 some parts.

 I found also some interesting post about EDS.
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-June/msg00028.html
 As I understand there is some work done to make EDS more UI independent.

 Do you know if this was done, or work is in progress and in which release it
 will be?

CamelSettings is done. But Im not sure of what you mean by UI independence.


 And as release 3.4 is planned for March 2012. Does it means that 3.6 should
 be available after
 six months, so around September 2012. Does evolution follows GNOME schedules
 (new stable version every six months)?

Yes. Evo follows GNOME schedules.

-Srini

 Michal



 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.org
 wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Srini,
 
  I will go in direction of modifying build process to be able to remove
  all
  dependencies to libraries that are not available on my SDK.
  I think it should be possible, but still I am not sure.
  My aim is to compile EDS (only mails) with Evolution (only
  libemail-engine +
  ??) and your e-mail-factory.
  Then I'm going to provide some GUI.
  Communication between those components should be done via DBUS.
  I am still no aware how content of mail will be visible for user. Or in
  other words, who will render its content.
 

 Evolution uses gtkhtml for rendering mails. Anjal used webkit. You can
 also use MozEmbed.

  In addition, I need to estimate how big package (backend) I will have
  after
  successful compilation.
  Could you help me in estimation?

 Big in the sense size? I have no idea tbh.

 -Srini


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-01-31 Thread Michal G.
Hi,

Nice to meet the author of Anjal :)

I went through code and Wiki yesterday and I am starting to understand just
a little piece of very high architecture.
I will try to compile EDS with my SDK for my ARM device. But first I need
to familiarize with build process.

As I understand within EDS there is mail engine - this Camel library which
I could use and link dynamically with my GUI.
Do you know if there is simple example that shows how to send email message?

Probably better way will be to use your e-mail-factory. Then I will be able
to split GUI and Mail engine on two different processes.
Will your e-mail factory be an official part of Evolution soon?

I do not understand why you advice me to checkout branch of evolution. I
thought that all data engines (mail and calendar) are covered by EDS.
And when I compile it I will be able to connect it with my GUI. It could be
done over DBUS if I have two processes or just dynamic linking to GUI.
Do I think correctly?

Could you say, point me a document that describe how EDS store mails and
calendar data. Is it some own database in file or some other mechanism?

Michal


On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.orgwrote:

 Hi

 On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thank you for answer.
 
  Yes. I'm looking for mail engine that will be able to communicate for
  instance over DBUS which some UI.
  My device does not uses X.org, GTK and Cairo.
  It future, I would also append my software with Calendar functionality.

 Calendar is already in EDS available over DBUS.

 
  I choosed to work with Evolution because I saw similar email client
 called
  Anjal that utilize Evolution but has own UI.

 I was the author of Anjal. It was build with Gtk/Cairo on top of
 libevolution-mail. Now after mbarnes's awesome library breaks, I broke
 mail engine to a independent library that can reside in EDS (in the
 future) which I currently server over DBUS.

 You must checkout master branch of eds and evolution.
 https://github.com/sragavan/e-mail-factory is the dbus engine that Im
 working on, which is still under development. Some apis are fun and
 still not up to the mark. But you can use them and it works fine.

 -Srini.

 
  Could you tell me from which git should I clone
  - http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server
  - http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution
 
  And could you tell where to start, or what should I read some to
  - build mail engine library (http://mad-scientist.us/evolution.html -
 should
  I follow this process)
  - API of DBUS
 
  Michal
 
 
  On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.org
  wrote:
 
  Hi Michal,
 
  On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I've been investigating a possibility of Evolution Mail
   cross-compilation
   for Linux X-less device (ARM) and use it as dynamic library that will
   provide me possibility to expose API that could be utilize by HMI
 layer.
  
   1)Is it possible to compile Evolution Mail without any user
   interface
   (pure –headless)? Or how much work would that require?
   2)Does Evolution architecture allows doing such split – mail
   supporting
   functionality and GUI?
   3)Is it possible to eliminate all unnecessary libs and resources?
   They’re using valuable device resources and may cause compilation
   problems.
   4)If I’m about hacking the build process to my needs (removing
   dependencies) where should I start?
 
  IIUC you want to use the engine of evolution, but not the UI. If so,
  I've been working on a mail daemon which has all the mail logic built
  in and exposes mail (basic) interface over dbus. If you aren't
  interested in that, you can look at libemail-engine.so which is a new
  library that I added a week ago in master which provides most of what
  you are looking at except the UI.
 
  -Srini
 
  
   Best regards,
   Michal Guzieniuk
  
  
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-01-31 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Nice to meet the author of Anjal :)

 I went through code and Wiki yesterday and I am starting to understand just
 a little piece of very high architecture.
 I will try to compile EDS with my SDK for my ARM device. But first I need to
 familiarize with build process.

 As I understand within EDS there is mail engine - this Camel library which I
 could use and link dynamically with my GUI.
 Do you know if there is simple example that shows how to send email message?

Camel is just the mail access/storage library. I meant
libemail-engine.so in evolution/ project, which runs mails accounts,
checks for mails etc.


 Probably better way will be to use your e-mail-factory. Then I will be able
 to split GUI and Mail engine on two different processes.
 Will your e-mail factory be an official part of Evolution soon?

e-mail-factory should be in eds in 3.6 cycle, but that depends on how
much effort I get to merge evolution to use the mail daemon.


 I do not understand why you advice me to checkout branch of evolution. I
 thought that all data engines (mail and calendar) are covered by EDS.

e-mail-factory needs libemail-engine, which is in evolution. Evolution
needs EDS.

 And when I compile it I will be able to connect it with my GUI. It could be
 done over DBUS if I have two processes or just dynamic linking to GUI.
 Do I think correctly?

You GUI should speak over dbus to the daemon (which is a process by
itself) to fetch/access mails.


 Could you say, point me a document that describe how EDS store mails and
 calendar data. Is it some own database in file or some other mechanism?

I don't remember any doc for this, what ever you find could be
obsolete in some form I fear.

-Srini

 Michal



 On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.org
 wrote:

 Hi

 On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thank you for answer.
 
  Yes. I'm looking for mail engine that will be able to communicate for
  instance over DBUS which some UI.
  My device does not uses X.org, GTK and Cairo.
  It future, I would also append my software with Calendar functionality.

 Calendar is already in EDS available over DBUS.

 
  I choosed to work with Evolution because I saw similar email client
  called
  Anjal that utilize Evolution but has own UI.

 I was the author of Anjal. It was build with Gtk/Cairo on top of
 libevolution-mail. Now after mbarnes's awesome library breaks, I broke
 mail engine to a independent library that can reside in EDS (in the
 future) which I currently server over DBUS.

 You must checkout master branch of eds and evolution.
 https://github.com/sragavan/e-mail-factory is the dbus engine that Im
 working on, which is still under development. Some apis are fun and
 still not up to the mark. But you can use them and it works fine.

 -Srini.

 
  Could you tell me from which git should I clone
  - http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server
  - http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution
 
  And could you tell where to start, or what should I read some to
  - build mail engine library (http://mad-scientist.us/evolution.html -
  should
  I follow this process)
  - API of DBUS
 
  Michal
 
 
  On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.org
  wrote:
 
  Hi Michal,
 
  On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I've been investigating a possibility of Evolution Mail
   cross-compilation
   for Linux X-less device (ARM) and use it as dynamic library that will
   provide me possibility to expose API that could be utilize by HMI
   layer.
  
   1)    Is it possible to compile Evolution Mail without any user
   interface
   (pure –headless)? Or how much work would that require?
   2)    Does Evolution architecture allows doing such split – mail
   supporting
   functionality and GUI?
   3)    Is it possible to eliminate all unnecessary libs and resources?
   They’re using valuable device resources and may cause compilation
   problems.
   4)    If I’m about hacking the build process to my needs (removing
   dependencies) where should I start?
 
  IIUC you want to use the engine of evolution, but not the UI. If so,
  I've been working on a mail daemon which has all the mail logic built
  in and exposes mail (basic) interface over dbus. If you aren't
  interested in that, you can look at libemail-engine.so which is a new
  library that I added a week ago in master which provides most of what
  you are looking at except the UI.
 
  -Srini
 
  
   Best regards,
   Michal Guzieniuk
  
  
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-01-30 Thread Michal G.
Hi,

Thank you for answer.

Yes. I'm looking for mail engine that will be able to communicate for
instance over DBUS which some UI.
My device does not uses X.org, GTK and Cairo.
It future, I would also append my software with Calendar functionality.

I choosed to work with Evolution because I saw similar email client called
Anjal that utilize Evolution but has own UI.

Could you tell me from which git should I clone
- http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server
- http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution

And could you tell where to start, or what should I read some to
- build mail engine library (http://mad-scientist.us/evolution.html -
should I follow this process)
- API of DBUS

Michal

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.orgwrote:

 Hi Michal,

 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I've been investigating a possibility of Evolution Mail cross-compilation
  for Linux X-less device (ARM) and use it as dynamic library that will
  provide me possibility to expose API that could be utilize by HMI layer.
 
  1)Is it possible to compile Evolution Mail without any user interface
  (pure –headless)? Or how much work would that require?
  2)Does Evolution architecture allows doing such split – mail
 supporting
  functionality and GUI?
  3)Is it possible to eliminate all unnecessary libs and resources?
  They’re using valuable device resources and may cause compilation
 problems.
  4)If I’m about hacking the build process to my needs (removing
  dependencies) where should I start?

 IIUC you want to use the engine of evolution, but not the UI. If so,
 I've been working on a mail daemon which has all the mail logic built
 in and exposes mail (basic) interface over dbus. If you aren't
 interested in that, you can look at libemail-engine.so which is a new
 library that I added a week ago in master which provides most of what
 you are looking at except the UI.

 -Srini

 
  Best regards,
  Michal Guzieniuk
 
 
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-01-30 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Hi

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Thank you for answer.

 Yes. I'm looking for mail engine that will be able to communicate for
 instance over DBUS which some UI.
 My device does not uses X.org, GTK and Cairo.
 It future, I would also append my software with Calendar functionality.

Calendar is already in EDS available over DBUS.


 I choosed to work with Evolution because I saw similar email client called
 Anjal that utilize Evolution but has own UI.

I was the author of Anjal. It was build with Gtk/Cairo on top of
libevolution-mail. Now after mbarnes's awesome library breaks, I broke
mail engine to a independent library that can reside in EDS (in the
future) which I currently server over DBUS.

You must checkout master branch of eds and evolution.
https://github.com/sragavan/e-mail-factory is the dbus engine that Im
working on, which is still under development. Some apis are fun and
still not up to the mark. But you can use them and it works fine.

-Srini.


 Could you tell me from which git should I clone
 - http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server
 - http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution

 And could you tell where to start, or what should I read some to
 - build mail engine library (http://mad-scientist.us/evolution.html - should
 I follow this process)
 - API of DBUS

 Michal


 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@gnome.org
 wrote:

 Hi Michal,

 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I've been investigating a possibility of Evolution Mail
  cross-compilation
  for Linux X-less device (ARM) and use it as dynamic library that will
  provide me possibility to expose API that could be utilize by HMI layer.
 
  1)    Is it possible to compile Evolution Mail without any user
  interface
  (pure –headless)? Or how much work would that require?
  2)    Does Evolution architecture allows doing such split – mail
  supporting
  functionality and GUI?
  3)    Is it possible to eliminate all unnecessary libs and resources?
  They’re using valuable device resources and may cause compilation
  problems.
  4)    If I’m about hacking the build process to my needs (removing
  dependencies) where should I start?

 IIUC you want to use the engine of evolution, but not the UI. If so,
 I've been working on a mail daemon which has all the mail logic built
 in and exposes mail (basic) interface over dbus. If you aren't
 interested in that, you can look at libemail-engine.so which is a new
 library that I added a week ago in master which provides most of what
 you are looking at except the UI.

 -Srini

 
  Best regards,
  Michal Guzieniuk
 
 
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[Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-01-27 Thread Michal G.
Hi,

I've been investigating a possibility of Evolution Mail cross-compilation
for Linux X-less device (ARM) and use it as dynamic library that will
provide me possibility to expose API that could be utilize by HMI layer.

1)Is it possible to compile Evolution Mail without any user interface
(pure –headless)? Or how much work would that require?
2)Does Evolution architecture allows doing such split – mail supporting
functionality and GUI?
3)Is it possible to eliminate all unnecessary libs and resources?
They’re using valuable device resources and may cause compilation problems.
4)If I’m about hacking the build process to my needs (removing
dependencies) where should I start?

Best regards,
Michal Guzieniuk
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Compile Evolution Mail as .so file with API for other GUI on ARM device

2012-01-27 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Hi Michal,

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Michal G. guziemic.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I've been investigating a possibility of Evolution Mail cross-compilation
 for Linux X-less device (ARM) and use it as dynamic library that will
 provide me possibility to expose API that could be utilize by HMI layer.

 1)    Is it possible to compile Evolution Mail without any user interface
 (pure –headless)? Or how much work would that require?
 2)    Does Evolution architecture allows doing such split – mail supporting
 functionality and GUI?
 3)    Is it possible to eliminate all unnecessary libs and resources?
 They’re using valuable device resources and may cause compilation problems.
 4)    If I’m about hacking the build process to my needs (removing
 dependencies) where should I start?

IIUC you want to use the engine of evolution, but not the UI. If so,
I've been working on a mail daemon which has all the mail logic built
in and exposes mail (basic) interface over dbus. If you aren't
interested in that, you can look at libemail-engine.so which is a new
library that I added a week ago in master which provides most of what
you are looking at except the UI.

-Srini


 Best regards,
 Michal Guzieniuk


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