Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-23 Thread Felix Kaser
Examples: - Pidgin * Configuration - Settings for which services to connect to, what skins to use and what plugins to use. * Data - Text entered at the keyboard, text received over the service, files received or sent over the service, chat logs. - Gnome Background Settings *

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-23 Thread Felix Kaser
Martin Owens schrieb: Dear Felix, Ahhh wait! It's nice you separated data and configuration, but to be honest: I really don't want my home directory to be flooded with data I don't even want do see outside the application! Calm down dear, it's only a discussion. I am calm =)

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Owens
Dear Felix, Ahhh wait! It's nice you separated data and configuration, but to be honest: I really don't want my home directory to be flooded with data I don't even want do see outside the application! Calm down dear, it's only a discussion. I don't want to have a folder background

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Owens
Hi Felix, Now I think your idea is not bad at all, because we have a quite nice folder structure already (Documents, Pictures, Videos and so on). But they must be used! Correct me if I'm wrong, but FSpot makes its own directory (/home/foo/Photos) for the pictures you want to copy to picture

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-18 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Hi, first, let me tell you I perfectly agree with you that user data should be easily accessible to users. It's their data after all. Now I want to shade this a bit for what is usually called PIM data. imho, users (I mean normal non-geeky users) often only know about one way of getting to their

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Owens
Hi Gilles, first, let me tell you I perfectly agree with you that user data should be easily accessible to users. It's their data after all. It's not just abut accessibility in your currently working computer at this point in time. It's also about visibility, compatibility with alternative and

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Owens
I think this idea is extremely valuable and merits robust discussion to discover ways to encourage application developers to incorporate this way of approaching data storage. Thank you, I'm not always as coherent as I'd like when I describe my ideas and knowing it made sense to you gives me

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Owens
Hi, I think it would be important to distinguish between a local cache of a remote IMAP or CalDAV folder (i.e. Configuration) vs. local mail folders, calendars, contact lists, etc. (Data). I agree, I regretted not making a note about cache data. Caches are temporary stores, if it makes

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-17 Thread Remco
Shouldn't the Telepathy framework be considered for storing account settings? Remco ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-17 Thread Felix Kaser
Nice thoughts, really nice thoughts! But I have to defend cheese! You're right, storing the pictures in a hidden directory is not that good! The maintainer of cheese, daniel siegel implemented it this way, because he thought storing all these random-crazy-looking-pictures taken with cheese in

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-17 Thread Onno Benschop
On 13/09/08 11:48, Martin Owens wrote: Technically configuration directories denoted by being hidden (suffexed with a '.') are there to hold collections of configuration files for the applications which they serve. But there are plenty of programs using these directories to store the data

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 12.09.2008, 23:48 -0400 schrieb Martin Owens: For consideration I present Cheese, a very nice tool for using web-cams to take photos with weird disfiguring effects. The problem as I see it is that Cheese stores each of the photos in it's ~/.cheese directory which makes them