Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-09-03 Thread Mr.J
> On Aug 30, 2022, at 10:20 PM, Mr.J wrote: > > The external drive is formatted in FAT, and not exFAT. FYI: The drive WAS formatted in exFAT. There were three Evolution backup files on it, each exactly 4.3 gb. I don’t understand. I’ve since reformatted to ext4. I’m quite relieved I haven’t

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 07:46 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 11:22 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 09:57 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > In the past, when the config > > > was stored in dconf, it was a bit more complicated since the >

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 11:22 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 09:57 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > In the past, when the config > > was stored in dconf, it was a bit more complicated since the dconf > > keys needed to be dumped and then backed up. But now everything

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 10:29 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > The only reliable mechanism to verify a tar archive is valid is to > table it.  :( Hi, I opened: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/2011 for this, thus it's not forgotten. Bye Milan

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 10:44 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Is backup-restore-gsettings.ini only generated when you create a > backup or is it part of the usual operation of Evolution? Hi, it's created by the backup/restore only. > Also, mine is over 2Mb, is that normal? Not really. I guess

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 11:22 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 09:57 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > In the past, when the config > > was stored in dconf, it was a bit more complicated since the dconf > > keys needed to be dumped and then backed up. But now everything

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 09:57 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > In the past, when the config > was stored in dconf, it was a bit more complicated since the dconf > keys needed to be dumped and then backed up. But now everything is > stored in .config/evolution. Hi, for what it's worth, most of the

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Pete Biggs
> > If the file size was too large for the file system, it still doesn't > explain why there was no standard error stream and appropriate exit > status. Such an event would have caused error messages. I think you need to consider how the backup process is run. Normally people start Evolution

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:51 -0500, c. marlow wrote: > > > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > I would possibly go as far as to say that that particular > > > > functionality > > > > has run its course and could be consigned to the big bit-bucket > > > > in > > > > the >

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 21:33 -0700, Mr. J wrote: > So there's something about the process or > the external hard drive (or both?) that prevents the creation of a > valid .tar.gz backup file on my hard drive. It was recently > formatted, so I'm at a loss to explain. Hi, while even a brand new

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Mr.J
e readable by MS based systems. > -- > Thanks > Luigi 2 > > -Original Message- > From: Mr. J > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 21:33:49 -0700 > Mailer: Evolution 3.44.1-0ubuntu1 > > U

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list
based systems. -- Thanks Luigi 2 -Original Message- From: Mr. J To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 21:33:49 -0700 Mailer: Evolution 3.44.1-0ubuntu1 Update   I started recovering the file with gzrt, et. al. https

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Mr. J
Update   I started recovering the file with gzrt, et. al. https://www.aaronrenn.com/arenn/hacking/gzrt/gzrt.html and am getting closer.  So anyone who falls into such a hole may find some salvation. However, and for the list: Recovering with gzrt and cpio gave me some error messages that

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread c. marlow
On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > you are in favour of Evolution, just because it offers this option? > > Claws probably doesn't provide this feature for good reasons. Yes it's quite nice that not only does it import my email from my POP3 days..

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:51 -0500, c. marlow wrote: > > > I'd go back to Claws if the backup / restore feature was removed from > Evo. Hi, you are in favour of Evolution, just because it offers this option? Claws probably doesn't provide this feature for good reasons. IMO this is the best

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Robert McDonald
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:51 -0500, c. marlow wrote: > > > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > I would possibly go as far as to say that that particular > > > > functionality > > > > has run its course and could be consigned to the big bit-bucket > > > > in > > > > the >

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread c. marlow
>> On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: >>> I would possibly go as far as to say that that particular >>> functionality >>> has run its course and could be consigned to the big bit-bucket in >>> the >>> sky. SEVERELY DISAGREE... I'd go back to Claws if the backup / restore

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Matt Connell
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 17:41 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 12:11 -0400, Matt Connell wrote: > > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > Perhaps take it off the main 'File' menu and change it to > > > something like "Save account settings" in the

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 00:22 +0800, Netsol.link wrote: > > I would support this, though I'm sure some people might be upset > > about > > it. No-one expects their browser to have a built-in backup method, > > so > > why should their email system? I don't think other MUAs do this. > > > > poc > >

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 12:11 -0400, Matt Connell wrote: > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Perhaps take it off the main 'File' menu and change it to > > something like "Save account settings" in the preferences and not > > backup the actual stored messages. > > I support

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Netsol.link
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 12:03 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > > > I've suggested in the past that we should change the terminology > > > and > > > call it something else, but so far no-one has come up with a good > > >

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 10:29 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Table-After-Creation is a good rule. Hi, when using tar by command line it's necessary to do it, not only to check that the archive is not corrupt, but also to rule out user errors, such as path typos or not having thought of

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Matt Connell
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Perhaps take it off the main 'File' menu and change it to > something like "Save account settings" in the preferences and not > backup the actual stored messages. I support this, but not full removal. I don't use it for 'synchronizing'

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Mr.J
> On Aug 30, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I know it's no solace to the OP Well, that said a mouthful. I agree the “restore” function should be called “replace” or the like, and a simple warning (I.e. “Do not rely on backup/restore for routine preservation of your emails.”) would

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > I would possibly go as far as to say that that particular functionality > has run its course and could be consigned to the big bit-bucket in the > sky. Hi, _yes_, announce that you will remove it and unless no user should veto, remove it. >

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 10:29 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > My guess is, that Evolution isn't the culprit, but tar is the > > culprit. > > The only reliable mechanism to verify a tar archive is valid is to > table it. :( > > Table-After-Creation is a good rule. > I know it's no solace to

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> My guess is, that Evolution isn't the culprit, but tar is the > culprit. The only reliable mechanism to verify a tar archive is valid is to table it. :( Table-After-Creation is a good rule. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> Thanks, Luigi. The USB hard drive was not disconnected at all. > Evolution did the backup and finished. Could the size of the file > caused the problem? Potentially, there are a lot of variables. Depending on the filesystem of the USB drive the file could be limited to ~2GB or ~4GB. It is

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 11:49 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > I've suggested in the past that we should change the terminology > > and > > call it something else, but so far no-one has come up with a good > > alternative name. Any suggestions would be welcome. > > > I agree entirely with you.

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Pete Biggs
> > I've suggested in the past that we should change the terminology and > call it something else, but so far no-one has come up with a good > alternative name. Any suggestions would be welcome. > I agree entirely with you. I think the "backup/restore" is generally abused rather than used - in

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-08-29 at 16:41 -0700, Mr. J wrote: > Friends: I have been trying to restore yesterday's Evolution backup > and get the message:  > > File “/home/ij/Downloads/evolution-backup-20220828.tar.gz” is not a > valid Evolution backup file.   > > I created the backup file yesterday with

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-08-29 at 18:33 -0700, Mr.J wrote: > Could the size of the file caused the problem? Hi, yesno. It depends on the file system and the size of the archive, so indeed, yes, the file can become too large to fit. When generating the archive and the size or any other issue should be the

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-29 Thread Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list
: Mr.J To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 18:33:45 -0700 Mailer: iPhone Mail (19G82) Thanks, Luigi. The USB hard drive was not disconnected at all. Evolution did the backup and finished. Could the size of the file caused the problem? I

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-29 Thread Mr.J
gt; -- > Thanks > Luigi > -Original Message- > From: Mr. J > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution > Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 17:17:45 -0700 > Mailer: Evolution 3.44.1-0ubuntu1 > >> On Mon, 2022-08-29 at 16:41 -0700, Mr

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-29 Thread Luigi Cantoni via evolution-list
Message- From: Mr. J To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 17:17:45 -0700 Mailer: Evolution 3.44.1-0ubuntu1 On Mon, 2022-08-29 at 16:41 -0700, Mr. J wrote: > Friends: I have been trying to restore yesterday's Evolution bac

Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-29 Thread Mr. J
On Mon, 2022-08-29 at 16:41 -0700, Mr. J wrote: > Friends: I have been trying to restore yesterday's Evolution backup > and get the message:  > > File “/home/ij/Downloads/evolution-backup-20220828.tar.gz” is not a > valid Evolution backup file.   > > I created the backup file yesterday with

[Evolution] Restoring Evolution

2022-08-29 Thread Mr. J
Friends: I have been trying to restore yesterday's Evolution backup and get the message:  File “/home/ij/Downloads/evolution-backup-20220828.tar.gz” is not a valid Evolution backup file.   I created the backup file yesterday with Evolution's backup function, and I'm running the restore command