Re: [Evolution] Slow closing Evolution...?
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 08:33 +0100, Steve T wrote: Evolution 3.2.3, Gnome 3, FC 16 It's no major issue, but Evolution tends to take an age to close down. I have a few 'virtual' folders. Although I have cut down the virtual folder list dramatically as it affected the start up time, I still have about 25 'virtual' folders that I use to split my personal, business and family mail. The Evolution shut down time can run into 10-15 minutes. I have about 46,000 inbox mails and 8000 sent mails that are being processed into the virtual folders. Anyone have any idea as to why it's taking so long? Hi, it can be partly due to virtual folders, they are slower since db-summary landed, though that's subject to change. Nonetheless, to be sure, it would be good to get a backtrace of stuck evolution, to have an idea what it tries to do and what takes that long. You can get backtrace of running evolution with command like this: $ gdb --batch --ex t a a bt -pid=PID bt.txt where PID is a process ID of running evolution (ps ax | grep evolution). Make sure the bt.txt doesn't expose any private information, like passwords (I usually search for pass (quotes for clarity only)). Also make sure you'll have installed debug info packages at least for gtkhtml3, evolution-data-server, evolution and any other evolution's third party providers/backends, like evolution-rss, evolution-exchange, ... if they are used on your machine. The current approach of closing evolution is that it stays running till any activity is active. These activities are usually shown in status bar, thus check what's written there while evolution is stuck. Basically once the status bar is empty, evolution quits. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] continued troubles with EVO v3.2.2 on Mint-12 with Cinnamon
Hi, i use Evo 3.2.2 with Mint Linux Lisa 64 and Cinnamon 1.4 without problems. Pete, has you test copy and paste with pressing the mousewheel. I believe Cinnamon had a gpaste addon Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2012, 23:31 +0100 schrieb Pete Biggs: I'm frustrated and stumped, OK, lots of people are saying Not Evo, Not Mint, Not Cinnamon etc. It really does point to something in your configuration. First, have you tried running Evo from the command line? Are there any strange error messages? Next, what about creating a new clean account - different username, home directory etc. etc. - then setup a dummy account in Evo under that username and try doing the paste operations that don't work for you. This will narrow down the problem to whether it's a config issue with your login or an issue with the install. Finally, if it's an issue with your login, then try changing the theme of your desktop and widgets (specifically the GTK theme) - that has been shown to be an issue in the past. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Airplay for 8 Evo enhancement requests
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 15:32 +1000, Nick Jenkins wrote: Mail: Remote images in HTML emails very slow to load and display, blocks display of email until completed.[Unsure if this is affected by WebKit?] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582591 We are still fetching the images manually, but it's completely asynchronous and we use libsoup for it, so it's pretty fast now. Maybe we could close this bug already? May I please ask: What Evo version was libsoup introduced in? Hi, it's 3.5.1, when WebKit landed into evolution. It's still quite alive, changes being done here and there, but that all should be settled for 3.6.0. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Can't copy text
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 15:17 +0930, Mike Alsop wrote: I recently upgraded Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 using the Ubuntu upgrade method and having a few problems with Evo 3.2.3 If I try to highlight some text in the preview pane or in an opened email to copy and paste the text, it will not let me select what I want. It highlights everything above where I am, including the headers and then the whole lot copies!! I notice also now that I cannot click on a link sent to me in an email to go straight to the default browser (Firefox). Again it highlights everything, then does not open the browser and the site. Hi, this [1] is a downstream bug report with couple highlights. Basically, this is introduced in gtk3, somewhere between 3.3.14 and 3.3.18, when there was done move to XInput 2.2, which broke GtkHTML. Bye, Milan [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809852 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Slow closing Evolution...?
Evolution 3.2.3, Gnome 3, FC 16 It's no major issue, but Evo tends to take an age to close down. I've seen this. It happens once in a while, without much consistency. Evolution 'grays out' after I hit close and just sits there, and sits there, and sits there I've seen it infrequently too, on Evo 3.2.2. I don't know how to reproduce it. When sitting there stalled it really doesn't appear to be doing anything. Yeah, I observe not much network traffic or CPU load or disk activity. It just sits there, greyed out. I leave it alone and go do other stuff. It seems to usually close itself after around 5 minutes. But I notice I've subtly reordered my end-of-day workflow because of it. I used to close Evo last, but now I close Evo first, just in case it does this. While I have a bit of mail in Local Computer almost all my mailboxes are via IMAP [why would anyone use anything else?!]. Ditto. 4 GB of local mail + 3 IMAP+ mailboxes. I don't think I have any virtual folders. All local tasks, all local memos, one webcal calendar + one Google calendar + 2 local calendars, 12 local address books + one Google address book. My gut suspicion is it feels like something to do with waiting on a network response that's not coming, involving either IMAP+ mailboxes or remote calendars, and it only ends when something somewhere times out. -- All the best, Nick. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Can't copy text
Le jeudi 10 mai 2012 à 15:17 +0930, Mike Alsop a écrit : I recently upgraded Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 using the Ubuntu upgrade method and having a few problems with Evo 3.2.3 If I try to highlight some text in the preview pane or in an opened email to copy and paste the text, it will not let me select what I want. It highlights everything above where I am, including the headers and then the whole lot copies!! I notice also now that I cannot click on a link sent to me in an email to go straight to the default browser (Firefox). Again it highlights everything, then does not open the browser and the site. Any clues appreciated. Hello, This bug is fixed https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672582 Under ubuntu, the fix is released in precise-proposed -- Bastien Durel ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Fixed Copy Problem
Thanks to those that replied. Problem fixed. I was logged in as Gnome Classic. As soon as I logged in as the new full Ubuntu method all is OK. Mike ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Slow closing Evolution...?
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 09:19 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 08:33 +0100, Steve T wrote: Evolution 3.2.3, Gnome 3, FC 16 It's no major issue, but Evolution tends to take an age to close down. I have a few 'virtual' folders. Although I have cut down the virtual folder list dramatically as it affected the start up time, I still have about 25 'virtual' folders that I use to split my personal, business and family mail. The Evolution shut down time can run into 10-15 minutes. I have about 46,000 inbox mails and 8000 sent mails that are being processed into the virtual folders. Anyone have any idea as to why it's taking so long? Hi, it can be partly due to virtual folders, they are slower since db-summary landed, though that's subject to change. Nonetheless, to be sure, it would be good to get a backtrace of stuck evolution, to have an idea what it tries to do and what takes that long. You can get backtrace of running evolution with command like this: $ gdb --batch --ex t a a bt -pid=PID bt.txt where PID is a process ID of running evolution (ps ax | grep evolution). Make sure the bt.txt doesn't expose any private information, like passwords (I usually search for pass (quotes for clarity only)). Also make sure you'll have installed debug info packages at least for gtkhtml3, evolution-data-server, evolution and any other evolution's third party providers/backends, like evolution-rss, evolution-exchange, ... if they are used on your machine. The current approach of closing evolution is that it stays running till any activity is active. These activities are usually shown in status bar, thus check what's written there while evolution is stuck. Basically once the status bar is empty, evolution quits. Bye, Milan Milan, Thanks for the reply. I hadn't seen you message and had already started Evolution from the command line with CAMEL_DEBUG=all set. Prior to that Evolution started automatically as normal this morning - so to restart with debug, I had to close it down. What I saw (in the status bar and messages was) was basically: 8:30 - I started the shutdown by clicking on the close window button 8:31 - SB -Checking Folder Consistency 8:40 - SB - Fetching Mail Messages followed by Checking Consistency 8:41 - Notification appeared of 3 new mail messages 8:50 - SB -Fetching mail and checking consistency again 8:57 - Evolution finally closed down I have the mail set to collect from the pop servers every 10 minutes so that partially explains the 8:40 and 8:50 messages - but it seems odd that it attempts (and succeeds) to collect mail even after I have requested a shut down (I'm not sure what that achieves). Maybe that is what is protracting the shutdown? I'm about to close down again now to see what the debug file shows ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] continued troubles with EVO v3.2.2 on Mint-12 with Cinnamon
i use Evo 3.2.2 with Mint Linux Lisa 64 and Cinnamon 1.4 without problems. Pete, has you test copy and paste with pressing the mousewheel. I believe Cinnamon had a gpaste addon Not me - I was just trying to help someone else - Evolution works just fine for me. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Slow closing Evolution...?
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:18 +0100, Steve T wrote: ... command line with CAMEL_DEBUG=all set. ... I'm about to close down again now to see what the debug file shows Hi, that log will be too full, pretty hard to read. I suggest to get the backtrace, during the Checking consistency, to see what it actually tries to check. If server disconnected unexpectedly and the provider does not count with it, then it may be the issue. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Slow closing Evolution...?
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 11:44 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:18 +0100, Steve T wrote: ... command line with CAMEL_DEBUG=all set. ... I'm about to close down again now to see what the debug file shows Hi, that log will be too full, pretty hard to read. I suggest to get the backtrace, during the Checking consistency, to see what it actually tries to check. If server disconnected unexpectedly and the provider does not count with it, then it may be the issue. Bye, Milan Milan, I trimmed the log to the lines added after I issued the close down, but it's still 17,000 lines. It seems to be primarily DB access and mail fetching, but it's hard to see what happened when as it's not timestamped (ie I can roughly correlate the log to the messages below, but not exactly) I didn't explain the messages too well in my previous mail so, in this case I received: 10:24 Issue Evolution close 10:31 Fetching mail , checking consistency and storing folder messages 10:41 As 10:31 and a new mail notification 10:45 Generating message list 10:48 Actual close down ...but the messages that do appear in the status bar do not stay. IE between 10:24 and 10:31, the SB was simply grey and for all intents and purposes Evolution appeared inactive. Ditto after 10:31 - the messages appeared for a few seconds as the action presumably occurred, and then the status bar was greyed again. Ditto 10:41 and 10:45. So to get a backtrace when the SB shows 'Checking consistency' would be virtually impossible as it appears for such a brief time. So at what point during the 20 minute shutdown should I get the backtrace, or doesn't it really matter? Is there anything in the 17,000 line log that I can specifically look for? Regards, Steve ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Color scheme is botched
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 09:07 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: I'm using Evolution under Debian Sid for my work email (an Exchange-based place), normally with Fluxbox as my wm (occasional switching to others to remind myself why I use Fluxbox). Recently though something changed, whether through a system update or other activity, and Evolution now comes up with an impossible set of colors. I've been trying to figure out what controls this, but no luck so far. A small jpg is attached showing the window. Where do I change this? This isn't an Evolution issue. These colors are driven by the Gtk theme. So that environment is trashing the theme or is setting the theme to something insane. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Slow closing Evolution...?
El día Thursday, May 10, 2012 a las 11:44:38AM +0100, Steve T escribió: Milan, I trimmed the log to the lines added after I issued the close down, but it's still 17,000 lines. It seems to be primarily DB access and mail fetching, but it's hard to see what happened when as it's not timestamped (ie I can roughly correlate the log to the messages below, but not exactly) I support the complaint of the OP, the debug output should have timestamps and it should be possible to tune what I want to see in this; I was once in the same situation as well already; one should file a bug report for this, if it does not exist already Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Color scheme is botched
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 08:46 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: This isn't an Evolution issue. These colors are driven by the Gtk theme. So that environment is trashing the theme or is setting the theme to something insane. See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671437 We're still using the deprecated GtkStyle API in some places, which is where the background color regression seems to manifest. Between selection and scrolling regressions and now this, GTK+ 3.4 has been a problematic release in general. I asked the Evolution team to keep our GTK+ requirement at 3.2 until this stuff gets ironed out. Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Color scheme is botched
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 09:07 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: I'm using Evolution under Debian Sid for my work email (an Exchange-based place), normally with Fluxbox as my wm (occasional switching to others to remind myself why I use Fluxbox). Recently though something changed, whether through a system update or other activity, and Evolution now comes up with an impossible set of colors. One more time: if you don't give the *Evolution* version (Help-Status) it's hard for people to help you. Giving a distro version is of no use to those who don't use that distro. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] convert to Maildir or IMAP from evolution's offline backup
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 10:18 -0700, shawn wrote:
I accidentally deleted alot of email from my IMAP server.
I made a copy of the offline copy that evolution makes. 3/4 of my email
is only
in this backup. How can i convert this backup into Maildir or IMAP
format?
Is this a current [~3.2] version? If so I'd put together a Python
script that recursively walks alls all the files in below
~/.local/share/evolution/mail/{accountId}/folders/{folderName}/cur/
and reads each one to construct an MBOX file of each folder.
http://docs.python.org/library/mailbox.html#mailbox.mbox
http://docs.python.org/library/email.parser.html
Parser from email.Parser will read a message from a string or a
file-handle. The individual files are raw messages.
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution on Kubuntu
I'm using Fedora 16 with KDE, Cinnamon and Gnome, and I can't see any problem. It looks good and works well. May be a distro issue or a lack of packages? Regards, Sylvia El vie, 20-04-2012 a las 16:58 -0400, Reid escribió: Hello group I am thinking of migrating from Gnome to KDE and would prefer to keep using Evolution, but when I see how Evolution looks I am surprised. Looks really bad. I'm sure I'm not the first person to notice this. Any thoughts please share. If this has been addressed in a another post feel free to forward that. regards, rsv869 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution on Kubuntu
Yes, it is. Exists an Oxygen theme called GTK and works in the way to give the same look to KDE and Gnome. Also, you have to install QT-GTK (or something like that) to configure the look of GTK apps inside KDE. I have all this installed and works very well. Hope this helps in some way El vie, 20-04-2012 a las 17:08 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams escribió: I don't know if it has been addresses here, but I've seen it as a topic frequently on other forums. Most likely your distribution does not install the GNOME theme plumbing when you install KDE and then Evolution. There is some theme (oxygen?) crap that relates the GNOME theme to the KDE theme or some such. Sorry I can't be more specific; but this is a distribution bug. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 08:34 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: rant I should open an issue on Bugzilla that the existence of these two options should be displayed in the largest possible font and pulsing in bright orange. Perhaps with a sound effect of nails being scraped across chalk boards. A pop-up should appear reminding the user of these options every several minutes. /rant These options should be removed. Requiring a separate backup tool for each application is really horrible user design. HORRIBLE! This is email, not an enterprise SQL database. -- Knowledge Is Power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts [Scanned]
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 21:18 +1000, Christopher M Bailey wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:44 +0200, Antonio M wrote: [snip] evolution-3.2.3-3 on the old computer with Fedora 16 Evolution 3.4.1 is running on Fedora 17 Hang on, have I got this right? You're running BETA software (Fedora 16 is the latest stable release), did not use the recommended method for transferring data and have cleansed the original system before checking to see if your backups are usable? I'm confident the folks here will be able to help you out, if it is possible. However I think that the lesson to be learnt here is to plain your migrations, especially when beta code is involved. Actually the real problem is with whoever thought a separate backup and restore tool for an email application was a good idea. For more than 20 years a simple backup of all the files in your home directory has been enough to get everything restored. Yet someone, somewhere decided to change that and seems to expect that every user of evolution has looked for a backup option (in the email client? what?). Even when things did happen, such as a change from mbox to maildir, there was a simple tool to run that would do the conversion. Where is that tool for Evolution? And no, installing a complete copy of the older Evolution and all its support libraries (and their libraries, etc.) is not a simple tool. -- Knowledge Is Power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Tranfer of accounts [Scanned]
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:48 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 21:18 +1000, Christopher M Bailey wrote: Actually the real problem is with whoever thought a separate backup and restore tool for an email application was a good idea For more than 20 years a simple backup of all the files in your home directory has been enough to get everything restored. That *is* enough. You backup and restore your home directory [not a cherry picked backup] - and it works. I've done it many times. Yet someone, somewhere decided to change that and seems to expect that every user of evolution has looked for a backup option (in the email client? what?). Yep. A great idea for when you just want to backup or transfer the contents managed by that application. Even when things did happen, such as a change from mbox to maildir, there was a simple tool to run that would do the conversion. Where is that tool for Evolution? The tools *is* Evolution. It just couldn't be easier. Evolution will migrate forward from previous versions - to a reasonable degree. And if you explicitly choose to use mbox or maildir - it support that. I just don't see what you are complaining about. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] convert to Maildir or IMAP from evolution's offline backup
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 11:18 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 10:18 -0700, shawn wrote:
I accidentally deleted alot of email from my IMAP server.
I made a copy of the offline copy that evolution makes. 3/4 of my email
is only
in this backup. How can i convert this backup into Maildir or IMAP
format?
Is this a current [~3.2] version? If so I'd put together a Python
script that recursively walks alls all the files in below
~/.local/share/evolution/mail/{accountId}/folders/{folderName}/cur/
and reads each one to construct an MBOX file of each folder.
http://docs.python.org/library/mailbox.html#mailbox.mbox
http://docs.python.org/library/email.parser.html
Parser from email.Parser will read a message from a string or a
file-handle. The individual files are raw messages.
That *is* Maildir. So if you want to convert this backup into Maildir
then just copy those individual files from each directory in Evolution's
backup, to the appropriate directory in your normal mail store
(~/Maildir/ on the mail server, perhaps).
If you're using an older version of Evolution where the local storage is
mbox, you'll want a script like mb2md to do the conversion to Maildir.
http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/
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[Evolution] Evo 3.2.2 sees itself as offline
Hey guys, I decided to give Evolution another try (It was my favorite mail application for Linux) after the switch to GNOME 3 by Debian Testing (Wheezy) made the new version of Evolution unusable as would refuse to download new messages telling me it had problems with connecting to the mail servers. Now have Evo 3.2.2 and although it is in online-mode I have an internet connection, I get told that Evolution is offline and therefor unable to fetch new mails. In the status bar at the bottom of the screen I'm informed that Evo tries to retrieve messages from the servers, (All IMAP accounts) but does not make any progress. In fact Evolution seems to have only issues with Yahoo Mail and Gmail accounts. Other mail accounts work quite well (Those also use IMAP). Any ideas how I could fix this issue? Debian Testing Wheezy Kernel 3.2.0 Evolution 3.2.2 Gnome Classic Desktop Design Thanks for your kind help, Pascal -- __ Pascal Bernhard Schwalbacher Straße 7 12161 Berlin Germany Phone: +49 (0)30 32 66 58 00 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.2.2 sees itself as offline
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:24 +0200, Pascal Bernhard wrote: Hey guys, I decided to give Evolution another try (It was my favorite mail application for Linux) after the switch to GNOME 3 by Debian Testing (Wheezy) made the new version of Evolution unusable as would refuse to download new messages telling me it had problems with connecting to the mail servers. Now have Evo 3.2.2 and although it is in online-mode I have an internet connection, I get told that Evolution is offline and therefor unable to fetch new mails. In the status bar at the bottom of the screen I'm informed that Evo tries to retrieve messages from the servers, (All IMAP accounts) but does not make any progress. In fact Evolution seems to have only issues with Yahoo Mail and Gmail accounts. Other mail accounts work quite well (Those also use IMAP). Any ideas how I could fix this issue? Debian Testing Wheezy Kernel 3.2.0 Evolution 3.2.2 Gnome Classic Desktop Design snip Is it looking for networkmanager and networkmanager isn't running? Just a guess. By the way, how does one use Evolution to access a Yahoo! account? I thought that was only possible with their premium mail and not their regular free offering. Thanks - John ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.2.2 sees itself as offline
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:24 +0200, Pascal Bernhard wrote: Now have Evo 3.2.2 and although it is in online-mode That means in the bottom left corner the two cables are connected? I have an internet connection, I get told that Evolution is offline Who tells that, and where? and therefor unable to fetch new mails. In the status bar at the bottom of the screen I'm informed that Evo tries to retrieve messages from the servers, (All IMAP accounts) but does not make any progress. -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.2.2 sees itself as offline
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:24 +0200, Pascal Bernhard wrote: I decided to give Evolution another try (It was my favorite mail application for Linux) after the switch to GNOME 3 by Debian Testing (Wheezy) made the new version of Evolution unusable as would refuse to download new messages telling me it had problems with connecting to the mail servers. Now have Evo 3.2.2 and although it is in online-mode I have an internet connection, I get told that Evolution is offline and therefor unable to fetch new mails. So it was online previously? Probably you need to toggle back to online mode via File - Work Online. Or clicking the connectivity icon/indicator in the bottom left corner. Or possibly your NetworkManager installation is broken; Evolution gets network availability information from NetworkManager. You can start Evolution via evolution --force-online to just be online regardless of the system's reported status. Any ideas how I could fix this issue? Debian Testing Wheezy Kernel 3.2.0 Evolution 3.2.2 Gnome Classic Desktop Design ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.2.2 sees itself as offline
Am 10.05.2012 23:29, schrieb John A. Sullivan III: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:24 +0200, Pascal Bernhard wrote: Hey guys, I decided to give Evolution another try (It was my favorite mail application for Linux) after the switch to GNOME 3 by Debian Testing (Wheezy) made the new version of Evolution unusable as would refuse to download new messages telling me it had problems with connecting to the mail servers. Now have Evo 3.2.2 and although it is in online-mode I have an internet connection, I get told that Evolution is offline and therefor unable to fetch new mails. In the status bar at the bottom of the screen I'm informed that Evo tries to retrieve messages from the servers, (All IMAP accounts) but does not make any progress. In fact Evolution seems to have only issues with Yahoo Mail and Gmail accounts. Other mail accounts work quite well (Those also use IMAP). Any ideas how I could fix this issue? Debian Testing Wheezy Kernel 3.2.0 Evolution 3.2.2 Gnome Classic Desktop Design snip Is it looking for networkmanager and networkmanager isn't running? Just a guess. By the way, how does one use Evolution to access a Yahoo! account? I thought that was only possible with their premium mail and not their regular free offering. Thanks - John Hi John, thanks for the quick reply. I think you are on to something. Whereas network-manager is running network-manager-gnome is not. I'm using GNOME classic (the fallback option when GNOME shell won't work well) According to nm-applet the network settings are configured correctly (ifconfig says the same). Unfortunately I'm still looking for a way to invoke network-manager-gnome either by the menu or via the commandline. As it doesn't get started on boot, would I have to put a specific line in /etc/rc.local or rather write a start-up script? I have the impression that Evolution expects network-manager-gnome to run in order to function properly. Weird though, that some mail accounts work without any issues. That shouldn't be case if running network-manager-gnome was absolutely necessary. Since quite a while you can use Yahoo Mail with the IMAP protocol using the standard, free mail offerings. No need to pay for any premium services. It works with other mail clients like Thunderbird, Kmail and, yes, Outlook 2010. Thanks, Pascal -- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.2.2 sees itself as offline
Am 10.05.2012 23:55, schrieb Andre Klapper: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:24 +0200, Pascal Bernhard wrote: Now have Evo 3.2.2 and although it is in online-mode That means in the bottom left corner the two cables are connected? Yes, they are connected. I have an internet connection, I get told that Evolution is offline Who tells that, and where? Right above the message list, there appears a quite huge field either in red (most of the times) or in orange. It informs me that an error occured and that Evolution was not able to retrieve new mails (or display the contents of a mail folder when I switch the folder) as it is offline. As I said there are some mail accounts that work with the current settings. This behavior happens only with Yahoo Mail (IMAP) and Gmail (IMAP) Pascal -- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.2.2 sees itself as offline
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 01:37 +0200, Pascal Bernhard wrote: snip Who tells that, and where? Right above the message list, there appears a quite huge field either in red (most of the times) or in orange. It informs me that an error occured and that Evolution was not able to retrieve new mails (or display the contents of a mail folder when I switch the folder) as it is offline. As I said there are some mail accounts that work with the current settings. This behavior happens only with Yahoo Mail (IMAP) and Gmail (IMAP) Pascal I'm running Evo 3.2.3 under openSUSE 12.1 using KDE. I have 12 email accounts, on two servers, all using POP. I am not using network manager. I connect to a router/modem which remains on at all times. When I start Evolution, I very often get the same error message, always in Orange, that says it could not connect to my mail server. One click on the Send/Receive button collects mail from all the accounts and I do not see the problem again until I restart Evolution. I have so far considered this quite a minor problem and mention it only to add to your thread. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.2.2 sees itself as offline
Am 11.05.2012 00:07, schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:24 +0200, Pascal Bernhard wrote: I decided to give Evolution another try (It was my favorite mail application for Linux) after the switch to GNOME 3 by Debian Testing (Wheezy) made the new version of Evolution unusable as would refuse to download new messages telling me it had problems with connecting to the mail servers. Now have Evo 3.2.2 and although it is in online-mode I have an internet connection, I get told that Evolution is offline and therefor unable to fetch new mails. So it was online previously? Probably you need to toggle back to online mode via File - Work Online. Or clicking the connectivity icon/indicator in the bottom left corner. On the one hand Evolution was always online, the connectivity icon in the bottom left corner suggests it is online, switching it off and then on again doesn't change the behavioir. Using the menu 'Work offline' says the same. Looking at Evolution this way, it is online. I get the error messages that Evolution was offline when either looking for new mails (for example right after starting the programme) or when changing to a different folder. Right now I writing this message from Icedove (Debian's version of Thunderbird). The existence of an unsent mail shows up in the 'Drafts' folder of Gmail in Evolution, but I cannot see and edit the message itself. There is no mail displayes in the message list and I get the following (orange background color) new warning right above the message list: Fehler bei »Neue Nachrichten werden für Offline-Modus abgerufen«. Nachrichtenrumpf in Antwort auf FETCH konnte nicht gefunden werden. In English it should be something like: Error when retrieving new message for offline-mode Message body in response to FETCH could not be found Beforehand I got different warnings that retrieving wasn't possible at all, as Evolution was in offline mode. I now deactivated the option in account settings to Automatically sync remote messages with local ones, that didn't have any effect. As Evolution won't let me send the mail, I had to use Icedove once again. This is what it says: The reported error was Fehler bei Welcome-Antwort:Die Wartezeit für die Verbindung ist abgelaufen. Error with Welcome-response: Waiting time for connection has expired signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
