Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 15:34 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > Ok, tried to use space on some mails that were marked unread in my Evolution > folder but space only scrolls to the bottom of the message (if showing > message preview and the message is larger than it can display in the preview) > When not showing preview, then nothing happens when pressing space. Hi, could you open a bug report in GNOME's bugzilla against evolution, please? [1] I would continue there, possibly with a debugging patch which would show what happened to that space bar press and eventually why it wasn't propagated further. I hope you can apply and compile with such patch on the affected machine. Out of blue, folder is in threaded (grouped) or non-threaded view? Are any threads collapsed, before/after/with the next unread message? Bye, Milan [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=evolution ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 15:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > There are CVE issues with webkit [2]. Sure, the CVE issues aren't > related to the spacebar, but users should be aware about those issues. Hi, yes, makes sense. Just do not confuse webkitgtk, webkitgtk2 and webkit2gtk, the last is way different from the two former. Evolution also switched to WebKit2 due to the security issues and because the WebKitGTK+ upstream has no capacity to take care of WebKit1. Fedora is getting rid of WebKit1 soon too (or already did, I do not know for sure, the main point is that applications based on WebKit1 should port to WebKit2 and that's it). Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:07:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 16:30:04 +0100, mario chiari wrote: >>>Downloads from godaddy are still slower than it used to be. >> >>Hi, >> >>I noticed that access to one of my three Yahoo accounts is slower, >>when using Evolution. All are fast when using Claws-Mail. More >>precise, this one Yahoo account is one of my two Rocketmail accounts, >>just the third is a plain Yahoo account. All settings are equal for >>those accounts, there's no explanation for the slower access to one >>of the Rocketmail accounts. There's just one thing I didn't verify. >>Claws-Mail keeps mails on the server and Evolution deletes mails >>after one day from the server. Much unlikely, but possible, maybe one >>Rocketmail account always stored fewer mails to be deleted after one >>day, than the other account. I don't think so, but didn't count the >>mails. This theoretically could explain a delay for one account. >> >>Regards, >>Ralf PS: This account wasn't slower, before I disabled the POP thingy. -- THIS MAIL was first sent using the wrong account, unfortunately I didn't receive a mail to cancel the posting! My apologies if now an admin need to check the mail send from the wrong address. Consider to reject such mails automatically, or to enable the option to cancel posts sent from a not subscribed email address. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 16:30:04 +0100, mario chiari wrote: >Downloads from godaddy are still slower than it used to be. Hi, I noticed that access to one of my three Yahoo accounts is slower, when using Evolution. All are fast when using Claws-Mail. More precise, this one Yahoo account is one of my two Rocketmail accounts, just the third is a plain Yahoo account. All settings are equal for those accounts, there's no explanation for the slower access to one of the Rocketmail accounts. There's just one thing I didn't verify. Claws-Mail keeps mails on the server and Evolution deletes mails after one day from the server. Much unlikely, but possible, maybe one Rocketmail account always stored fewer mails to be deleted after one day, than the other account. I don't think so, but didn't count the mails. This theoretically could explain a delay for one account. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 16:30 +0100, mario chiari wrote: > i have being suffering the same issue 'Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O > timed > out' since a few days ago, with a domain hosted by godaddy > (and secureserver.net). > > My evo has a couple of accounts which connect fine to a local smpt server (at > 127.0.0.1) and a single account as above. > > To be able to retrieve mails from the latter one, it seems I need to follow > your > advise 'Disable support for all POP3 extensions' >>for all<< my accounts. Does > it make sense? Downloads from godaddy are still slower than it used to be. > > Fedora 23 > GNOME Shell 3.18.5 > Evo 3.18.5.2 I'll just note that Fedora 23 is EOLed, i.e. no longer supported by Fedora. If you update your system you'll get a more recent version of Evolution, which *might* help. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [solved] Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out
On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 11:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi, > > I missed one difference: > > Server:pop.mail.yahoo.com > Port: 995 > Encryption method: TLS on a dedicated port > Authentication:Password > [ ] Check for new messages... > [x] Leave messages on server > Delete after [1] day(s) > [ ] Delete expunge from local Inbox > > The two accounts that failed: > [ ] Disable support for all POP3 extensions > > The account that works: > [x] Disable support for all POP3 extensions > > After disabling POP3 extensions for all accounts, all accounts are > working again. > > Regards, > Ralf > hi i have being suffering the same issue 'Cannot get POP summary: Socket I/O timed out' since a few days ago, with a domain hosted by godaddy (and secureserver.net). My evo has a couple of accounts which connect fine to a local smpt server (at 127.0.0.1) and a single account as above. To be able to retrieve mails from the latter one, it seems I need to follow your advise 'Disable support for all POP3 extensions' >>for all<< my accounts. Does it make sense? Downloads from godaddy are still slower than it used to be. Fedora 23 GNOME Shell 3.18.5 Evo 3.18.5.2 your comments and advises are welcome cheers mario ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:52:19 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: >Ah, right, different distributions can have it named differently. The >name I used was from Fedora. I do not know Arch linux, but I recall >some distro has it packaged as libwebkit2gtk-4.0 or something like >that. The thing is that it's a WebKitGTK+ library providing gtk+ API >for WebKit2 interface (also API). Some information about Arch Linux's webkit related packages: Arch Linux doesn't split to packages, IOW "foo" is "foo" and not "foo" + "libfoo" + "foo-dev" + "foo-docs" etc.. Debugging packages could be build, but aren't provided at all. This are all packages from official Arch repositories related to the search term "webkit" [1], including packages with a description mentioning "webkit", but the description is filtered by the piped grep. There are CVE issues with webkit [2]. Sure, the CVE issues aren't related to the spacebar, but users should be aware about those issues. Due to the CVE issues Arch stopped building Claws with webkit [3]. Regards, Ralf [1] [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Ss webkit | grep -v "" extra/epiphany 3.22.6-1 (gnome) extra/kdewebkit 5.32.0-1 (kf5) [installed] extra/qt5-webkit 5.8.0-1 (qt qt5) [installed] extra/qt5-webkit-ng tp5-2 extra/webkit2gtk 2.14.5-1 [installed] extra/webkitgtk 2.4.11-4 [installed] extra/webkitgtk2 2.4.11-4 [installed] community/gambas3-gb-qt5-webkit 3.9.2-2 (gambas3) [installed] community/phantomjs 2.1.1-4 community/qutebrowser 0.10.1-1 community/surf 0.7+199+gda5290a-1 community/webkit2-sharp 2.10.9-1 [2] [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ arch-audit | grep webkit Package webkitgtk is affected by ["CVE-2017-2373", "CVE-2017-2371", "CVE-2017-2369", "CVE-2017-2366", "CVE-2017-2365", "CVE-2017-2364", "CVE-2017-2363", "CVE-2017-2362", "CVE-2017-2356", "CVE-2017-2355", "CVE-2017-2354", "CVE-2017-2350"]. Critical risk! Package webkitgtk2 is affected by ["CVE-2017-2373", "CVE-2017-2371", "CVE-2017-2369", "CVE-2017-2366", "CVE-2017-2365", "CVE-2017-2364", "CVE-2017-2363", "CVE-2017-2362", "CVE-2017-2356", "CVE-2017-2355", "CVE-2017-2354", "CVE-2017-2350"]. Critical risk! [3] "2017-01-19 upgpkg: claws-mail 3.14.1-2 andyrtr disable fancy html plugin - Arch is dropping outdated webkitgtk due to CVEs git-svn-id: file:///srv/repos/svn-packages/svn@286991 eb2447ed-0c53-47e4-bac8-5bc4a241df78" - https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/log/trunk?h=packages/claws-mail=1 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:52 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 13:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > Yes, when a message is longer than is shown in the message preview, > > the message scrolls when pressing space. > > Hi, > okay, so the space bar actually works, but there are cases where it > doesn't work on the home machine? If it at least scrolls, then it means > you've the magic scape bar enabled (just as your gsettings command > shows). Evolution moves to the next unread message only if there is no > more place to scroll down in the preview (which is a reason why it > jumps to the next message immediately when the preview panel is off. > There can be any detail related, like whether you have setup Prefer > plain, whether you let it show HTML parts as attachments and so on. > That's one of the reasons why I wanted to test on a plain text message > first. > > Try, at home, with and without preview panel, then mark some message as > unread in one folder and let evolution cycle between them in the same > folder (like have at least two messages unread). > > The magic space bar doesn't rely on the account type, I'm pretty sure > it doesn't, but even if, then I suppose you've configured the same > accounts on both machines. > > > I am running Arch but could not find a package with similar name as webkit > > for gtk4 > > (but both computers are up 2 date so should be running the same libs...) > > Ah, right, different distributions can have it named differently. The > name I used was from Fedora. I do not know Arch linux, but I recall > some distro has it packaged as libwebkit2gtk-4.0 or something like > that. The thing is that it's a WebKitGTK+ library providing gtk+ API > for WebKit2 interface (also API). > Bye, > Milan > Ok, tried to use space on some mails that were marked unread in my Evolution folder but space only scrolls to the bottom of the message (if showing message preview and the message is larger than it can display in the preview) When not showing preview, then nothing happens when pressing space. Also I have copied my settings from home to work and are using the same accounts both places, so type of account should not matter. It my be this lib that is the same: webkit2gtk 2.14.5-1 but as I said, both computers should be running the same libs.. BTJ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 13:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > Yes, when a message is longer than is shown in the message preview, > the message scrolls when pressing space. Hi, okay, so the space bar actually works, but there are cases where it doesn't work on the home machine? If it at least scrolls, then it means you've the magic scape bar enabled (just as your gsettings command shows). Evolution moves to the next unread message only if there is no more place to scroll down in the preview (which is a reason why it jumps to the next message immediately when the preview panel is off. There can be any detail related, like whether you have setup Prefer plain, whether you let it show HTML parts as attachments and so on. That's one of the reasons why I wanted to test on a plain text message first. Try, at home, with and without preview panel, then mark some message as unread in one folder and let evolution cycle between them in the same folder (like have at least two messages unread). The magic space bar doesn't rely on the account type, I'm pretty sure it doesn't, but even if, then I suppose you've configured the same accounts on both machines. > I am running Arch but could not find a package with similar name as webkit > for gtk4 > (but both computers are up 2 date so should be running the same libs...) Ah, right, different distributions can have it named differently. The name I used was from Fedora. I do not know Arch linux, but I recall some distro has it packaged as libwebkit2gtk-4.0 or something like that. The thing is that it's a WebKitGTK+ library providing gtk+ API for WebKit2 interface (also API). Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:11 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Could it be a scancode vs keycodes issue with the used keyboard? > > > > > > > I am actually using the same keyboards as well.. :-) > > Perhaps the scancodes of the two installs are mapped to different > keycodes ;). > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_keyboard_keys > > This doesn't help, but explains a possible issue: > > "Pressing Space key inside the settings GUI works. > Pressing Space key in-game doesn't work (no action at all)" > > - https://github.com/yvt/openspades/issues/559 > > https://github.com/ianmaclarty/amulet/issues/99 > Thanks for the input but I guess space is working as it scrolls the message if the message is too large for the message preview... BTJ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 09:20:39 -0400, Krzysztof Adamski wrote: >I try to only use open source applications for my email reading, >Evolution, K9 on Android and Pine on Linux over ssh. > >My point which you missed is that Evolution is not available >everywhere, and expecting everybody to be able to filter mail based on >what is available in Evolution is unreasonable. Hi, you only care about yourself, try to see the whole situation for users of such MUAs. I for example use an iPad. The iPad doesn't provide sane filter to folder options. I decided against digest, because communication works much faster without the delay caused by collecting messages for the digest. To make it neat, the iPad's MUA collects the mails by thread related folders. If threading is broken, this doesn't work. Replies to digest tend to break the thread more often, than non-digest replies. To make a long story short, especially when using a tablet PC's or mobile phone's MUA without good filter to folder options, the thread is much more important, so digest is much more an issue for those MUAs and far away from being a solution to improve the workflow. By good sense, I've got no doubt, a minority of subscribers share your opinion, but also without doubts, most users don't. I'm not per se against digest, but you example is an argument con digest and not pro. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 09:20 -0400, Krzysztof Adamski wrote: > On 13/03/17 05:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 16:04 -0400, Krzysztof Adamski wrote: > > > Is there an Evolution client for Android? Not all email reading is done > > > in Evolution. > > > > Why do you need an Evolution for Android? I read my mail on Linux with > > Evolution, on other platforms with the Google webmail, on my Android > > phone and tablet with the Gmail apps. They all see the same mail. I > > don't think this is unusual. > > > > poc > > ___ > > I try to only use open source applications for my email reading, > Evolution, K9 on Android and Pine on Linux over ssh. > > My point which you missed is that Evolution is not available everywhere, > and expecting everybody to be able to filter mail based on what is > available in Evolution is unreasonable. Nothing I said is specific to Evolution. Every MUA supports filtering, including the ones you mentioned. I still don't understand the point you're trying to make. This is a discussion about policy on the Evolution mailing list. It's not about the Evolution mail client itself. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:11 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Could it be a scancode vs keycodes issue with the used keyboard? > > > > I am actually using the same keyboards as well.. :-) Perhaps the scancodes of the two installs are mapped to different keycodes ;). https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_keyboard_keys This doesn't help, but explains a possible issue: "Pressing Space key inside the settings GUI works. Pressing Space key in-game doesn't work (no action at all)" - https://github.com/yvt/openspades/issues/559 https://github.com/ianmaclarty/amulet/issues/99 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On 13/03/17 05:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 16:04 -0400, Krzysztof Adamski wrote: Is there an Evolution client for Android? Not all email reading is done in Evolution. Why do you need an Evolution for Android? I read my mail on Linux with Evolution, on other platforms with the Google webmail, on my Android phone and tablet with the Gmail apps. They all see the same mail. I don't think this is unusual. poc ___ I try to only use open source applications for my email reading, Evolution, K9 on Android and Pine on Linux over ssh. My point which you missed is that Evolution is not available everywhere, and expecting everybody to be able to filter mail based on what is available in Evolution is unreasonable. K ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Could it be a scancode vs keycodes issue with the used keyboard? > I am actually using the same keyboards as well.. :-) BTJ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
Could it be a scancode vs keycodes issue with the used keyboard? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 13:32 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on the > > two computers. > > I am using 3.22.6 btw.. > > Hi, > does the space-bar do anything at all, on the affected machine? For > example, I click into the message list (which selects one of the > messages and shows it into the preview panel). Then I press space bar > and the message preview is scrolled down, or I'm moved to another > unread message in the same folder. When I disable preview panel > (Ctrl+M), then the space bar simply moves between unread messages in > the selected folder. Yes, when a message is longer than is shown in the message preview, the message scrolls when pressing space. > > Try to run evolution from a terminal, whether anything useful would be > there. Check also what message is selected, this one (plain text) > should work just fine. No messages write in the terminal window > > Andre's bug reference was correct, it was the change which made it > work. One issue can be with webkitgtk4, but you might have installed > the same versions on both machines (rpm -qa | grep webkitgtk4). > Bye, > Milan I am running Arch but could not find a package with similar name as webkit for gtk4 (but both computers are up 2 date so should be running the same libs...) BTJ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on the two > computers. > I am using 3.22.6 btw.. Hi, does the space-bar do anything at all, on the affected machine? For example, I click into the message list (which selects one of the messages and shows it into the preview panel). Then I press space bar and the message preview is scrolled down, or I'm moved to another unread message in the same folder. When I disable preview panel (Ctrl+M), then the space bar simply moves between unread messages in the selected folder. Try to run evolution from a terminal, whether anything useful would be there. Check also what message is selected, this one (plain text) should work just fine. Andre's bug reference was correct, it was the change which made it work. One issue can be with webkitgtk4, but you might have installed the same versions on both machines (rpm -qa | grep webkitgtk4). Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:22 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar > > > > It returns true on both machines... > > A shot in the dark: > > I would check if permissions of dconf are correct. > After running an app using dconf, too, e.g. an editor, with root > privileges, dconf permissions could switch from user to root and this > could cause issues. > > $ ls -l .cache/dconf/user .config/dconf/user /run/user/*/dconf/user > > If required I would change permissions of .config/dconf/user to > user:user by running "chown" and simply delete .cache/dconf/user and > /run/user/*/dconf/user followed by running The permissions are right but I do not have a .cache/dconf folder (but I guess that is all right...) > > $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar false > > and directly after that > > $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar true > > Regards, > Ralf > > Ok, changed to false and then to true, but still the same.. BTJ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:22 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar > > It returns true on both machines... A shot in the dark: I would check if permissions of dconf are correct. After running an app using dconf, too, e.g. an editor, with root privileges, dconf permissions could switch from user to root and this could cause issues. $ ls -l .cache/dconf/user .config/dconf/user /run/user/*/dconf/user If required I would change permissions of .config/dconf/user to user:user by running "chown" and simply delete .cache/dconf/user and /run/user/*/dconf/user followed by running $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar false and directly after that $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar true Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.10.4 - OS Zorin
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 21:55 +, london man wrote: > 1.namely it has duplicated accounts. Hi, what account type? Where configured? > 2.keeps asking for pw. Hard to tell. > 3.Hangs when it feels like it. Hard to tell, backtrace of a stuck application usually helps. > 4.One mail inbox has over 3000mail and the second account holds 1999.. Not so many, right? What account type? > My point being as i am currently running Zorin OS 9 i have evolution > 3.10.4 as my main mail app That 3.10.4 is basically ancient, there will be released 3.24.0 the next Monday, thus you are way behind the current stable version (which is, as of today, 3.22.6, released yesterday). I do not want to count how many bug fixes and changes in general had been committed between 3.10.4 and the current stable version. > with the current climate of Security i am > aske to use Two-step verification for authentication. Two-step (two-factor) authentication, do we talk about Google services? If yes, then delete your account from within evolution itself and configure a Google account in GNOME Online Accounts, which allows to connect using two-factor authentication. Nonetheless, there had been issues with it, and they are fixed only in 3.20.6+ or something like that, thus the more latest evolution(-data-server) you get the better. You can consider to install a virtual machine with a distribution which offers the latest evolution to give it a try before you might change anything in your main system. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:46 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > > > At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When > > > > I > > > > reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread > > > > messages or the next message in the same folder. > > > > Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running > > > > the > > > > same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution > > > > settings. > > > > > > > > What can cause this? > > > > Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on > > the two computers. > > I am using 3.22.6 btw.. > > Could you run the following command on both machines?: > gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar > > Thanks, > andre > It returns true on both machines... BTJ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > Could you run the following command on both machines?: > gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar Shouldn't the OP run gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar true too? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
Am Dienstag, den 14.03.2017, 11:56 +0100 schrieb Bjørn T Johansen: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:46 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > > At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When I > > > reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread > > > messages or the next message in the same folder. > > > Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running the > > > same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution > > > settings. > > > > > > What can cause this? > > > > Which exact Evolution version is this about? There was > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771821 > > which is fixed in 3.22.2. > > > > Cheers, > > andre > > > > Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on the two > computers. > I am using 3.22.6 btw.. ... maybe, we should wait for Milan, because he commented the following code true <_summary>Enable or disable magic space bar <_description>Enable this to use Space bar key to scroll in message preview, message list and folders. found at https://github.com/GNOME/evolution/blob/master/data/org.gnome.evolution.mail.gschema.xml.in ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:46 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When I > > reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread > > messages or the next message in the same folder. > > Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running the > > same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution > > settings. > > > > What can cause this? > > Which exact Evolution version is this about? There was > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771821 > which is fixed in 3.22.2. > > Cheers, > andre > Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on the two computers. I am using 3.22.6 btw.. BTJ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When I > reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread > messages or the next message in the same folder. > Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running the > same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution > settings. > > What can cause this? Which exact Evolution version is this about? There was https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771821 which is fixed in 3.22.2. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 09:54 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > If digests are kept, are other mitigations possible. Like: > Is there a way to enforce mime digests? Not to my knowledge. > And is there a way to make the boilerplate at the top of the > digest more "robust" on the issue of replying to a digest? Honest opinion - that simply won't work. I wish I could return the youthful innocence when I believed that people bothered even a whit about following instructions & conventions. Hacker courtesy and all that. I do miss that Internet. > Is it possible to use References: headers to send all digest > replies to moderation? It has been a long time since I have journeyed into the dark heart of mailman - but I do not recall any such feature. My guess is you would have a cron task to scrape user's with digest enabled into the always moderate list. > Is it technically possible to remove the ability to turn on > digests, but allow current users to keep receiving them? Only via a code [template] hack, I believe. -- Meetings Coordinator, Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 Web: http://www.marp.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 18:01 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 21:56 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > If a lot of users actually should use digest, then digest shouldn't be > > dropped. If just a few users should actually use digest, it doesn't > > make sense to keep it, as long as at least not one person really needs > > digest for a good reason, that isn't related to a habit. > > > > What you call a "habit" other people may consider a "workflow" > carefully developed over years of experience trying alternatives. > I call that a good reason. But if that workflow is disrupting and causing problems for the majority of people, then it's a problem. I call that selfish. The bottom line is that, personally, I have no opinion on how other people choose to deal with something as, lets face it, trivial as a mailing list. The reason why it is an issue is because people reply to the digest breaking other people's "workflow"; there are mechanisms in place to mitigate this using the MIME digest and the message handling menu at the top of every message in the digest - but that menu is an Evolution thing and not inherent in the construct of the digest, so if someone uses a mailer other than Evolution (shock horror), then that facility won't be available to them. As far as I can see there is no technical reason to prefer digests, and lots of technical reasons to dislike them - thus it is purely down to preference. That is fine, choice is good and all that. But at what point does a few people's preferences trump everything else? Personally I would head towards removing digests, but it's not something I'm going to loose sleep over. But I too would like some digest users to speak up - there's certainly the possibility that we have become too blinkered and can't see the killer use case for digests. If digests are kept, are other mitigations possible. Like: Is there a way to enforce mime digests? And is there a way to make the boilerplate at the top of the digest more "robust" on the issue of replying to a digest? Is it possible to use References: headers to send all digest replies to moderation? Is it technically possible to remove the ability to turn on digests, but allow current users to keep receiving them? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
> > > > As far as I have ever seen, those numbers in parens after each > > folder bear no relationship to whether I have read the messages > > or not. Maybe this is because I mostly read them in the preview > > window and don't double click on them to read them in their own > > window? The numbers should be correct - they certainly always have been for me and I only read email in the preview pane. There is a certain (configurable) time delay between looking at a message and it being marked as read, perhaps you've got that set for too long (Preferences -> Mail Preferences -> General -> "Mark messages read after ...") P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Space to jump to next message does not work?
At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When I reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread messages or the next message in the same folder. Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running the same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution settings. What can cause this? Regards, BTJ -- --- Bjørn T Johansen b...@havleik.no --- Someone wrote: "I understand that if you play a Windows CD backwards you hear strange Satanic messages" To which someone replied: "It's even worse than that; play it forwards and it installs Windows" --- ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
