Re: [Evolution] [Feature request] Evolution should fetch new mail notifications even when the app is closed

2019-03-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Sat, 2019-03-02 at 01:50 +0100, juo...@joasis.lt wrote:
> With 3.30.5 version of Evolution new mail notifications show up at
> the
> startup of the app which I think is quite pointless and distracting
> because new email messages are cleary visible in the opened window.

That's only "pointless" if you have enabled "Edit > Preferences > Mail
Preferences > General > Start up > Check for new messages on start"?

[...]

> I strongly believe that Evolution should at least have an option to
> enable background notifications. It could probably be achieved by
> implementing such feature in evolution-data-server. 

Also see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764513

Cheers,
andre
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[Evolution] [Feature request] Evolution should fetch new mail notifications even when the app is closed

2019-03-01 Thread juozas
Hello everyone,

With 3.30.5 version of Evolution new mail notifications show up at the
startup of the app which I think is quite pointless and distracting
because new email messages are cleary visible in the opened window. One
might argue that the correct use of Evolution notications would be to
leave the app opened and minimized. That brings me to my question: is
that the best way to stay up-to-date with new email messages?

Most email and messaging apps on Android, iOS and other platforms have
a default behavior to provide notifications even when the app itself is
closed. To me it makes a lot of sense: generally I'm not
interested in opening the mail app unless I get a new email notification.

Keeping the app opened may result in one of the following problems:
1) It clutters the alt+tab window.
2) Placing it in separate workspace makes workspace navigation
cumbersome,
3) User might accidentally close the app without knowing it.

I strongly believe that Evolution should at least have an option to
enable background notifications. It could probably be achieved by
implementing such feature in evolution-data-server. The lack of it is
currently the sole reason I use Geary as my main email app.

Background apps have been a controversial topic in GNOME dev community.
However, what I'm suggesting is not against the guidelines as described
here in "Running in the background" section: 
https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/StatusIconMigration/Guidelines

Development of evolution-on (https://github.com/acidrain42/evolution-on
) and evolution-tray (http://gnome.eu.org/index.php/Evolution_Tray)
plugns seemingly stopped years ago and not necessarily in agreement
with current programming guidelines (e.g., use of tray icons is
discouraged: 
https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/). 

Let me know what you think.

Best regards,
Juozas

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Re: [Evolution] [EXTERNAL]Re: Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-03-01 Thread Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via evolution-list
That is correct - the OP meant incoming email.  I came to rely on it
heavily with the Boomerang plugin and also, for my personal email, with
 gmail snooze.

However, I've switched to using the create task or create appointment
function.  Changes my workflow a bit, but it does the job.


On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 15:14 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 09:06 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > Aside: A way does exist to do this, manually.  Compose the message
> > and
> > save-to-draft, don't send.  Then one can go the Drafts folder, open
> > the
> > message, and send it at any given time.  I personally use the
> > Drafts
> > feature frequently.
> 
> I think the OP meant snooze applied to incoming messages. At least in
> the case of Gmail, that's what it does. The mail is effectively
> deferred until a later time, and then shows up in the Inbox. It's
> still
> visible of course, so the deferment is a scheduled activity that just
> changes its status. As you say, there's no standard way of doing this
> and I can see it being a mess to implement in a robust way.
> 
> But isn't that what Tasks are for? On receiving the mail, use it to
> create a Task. That seems to cover the use case as far as I can see.
> Maybe there's a case for creating a quick way to do this and calling
> it
> Snooze.
> 
> poc
> 
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