Re: [Evolution] Filter for emails where recipent was BCC on original message

2022-06-23 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 00:35:12 Andre Klapper via evolution-list pisze:
> On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 23:52 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> > Why not? I have three accounts defined in Evolution and there is a
> > separate folder tree for each of the accounts.
> 
> Because that's IMAP. Not POP.

Ah! I somehow didn't notice that you are using POP...
I guess you have no option to switch to IMAP?
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Re: [Evolution] Filter for emails where recipent was BCC on original message

2022-06-23 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 23:52 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> Why not? I have three accounts defined in Evolution and there is a
> separate folder tree for each of the accounts.

Because that's IMAP. Not POP.

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Re: [Evolution] Filter for emails where recipent was BCC on original message

2022-06-23 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 23.06.2022 o godz. 15:09:05 dr.j.r.walker--- via evolution-list pisze:
> 
> It is my understanding that Evolution does not keep separate emails
> from different accounts. It then uses the header information and filter
> rules to distribute the emails to different folders (as desired).

Why not? I have three accounts defined in Evolution and there is a separate
folder tree for each of the accounts. I don't need an filtering rules for
that.
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[Evolution] Help me understand something please

2022-06-23 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
Hi List, 
I have a curious problem, when I check my mail "on this computer" (aka
local mail) which contains things like Cron job reports, apticron
notices, etc. Or more simply put text based email sent by the system. I
have a process called WebKitWebProcess that pegs my CPU. It will use 35
-95% of the CPU when I'm checking my local mail only. I check my IMAP
mail(gmail) and nothing goes over 45% total CPU usage. I'm on Evolution
3.44.2-1 using gnome Classic in Debian Bookworm (Testing). I've had
this problem for a couple of versions of Evolution now. So first
question: Why is WebKit anything being used to check my system mail
from evolution? 
For my second question: How do I get it to stop hogging my CPU? I have
gotten my system mails down to a minimum output (the most so far has
been 10 since correcting some settings and removing certain programs)? 

Thanks for any suggestions, I've filed Bug#1012227: webkitgtk and
Bug#1012817: evolution-common: Checking local mail causes High CPU
Usage if someone wants to take a crack at those. 

-Tim
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Re: [Evolution] Filter for emails where recipent was BCC on original message

2022-06-23 Thread Pete Biggs
> 
> It's about differences in design. Claws and Thunderbird have no
> problems with receiving "BCC" emails because they keep separate emails
> downloaded from different accounts. Anything downloaded from a server
> for account X will get put in the inbox for account X irrespective of
> what may be in the headers. Similarly, anything downloaded from a
> server for account Y will get put in the inbox for account Y
> irrespective of what may be in the headers.
> 
> It is my understanding that Evolution does not keep separate emails
> from different accounts. It then uses the header information and filter
> rules to distribute the emails to different folders (as desired).
> 
> It's different, and not ideal for me (with respect to receiving BCC
> emails). Claws and Thunderbird have their own problems.

OK. If you had described the problem, rather than the solution you
want. 


In the filter, don't use the "Recipients" condition, use "Source
Account" to sort the emails after they've been retrieved from the
server.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Filter for emails where recipent was BCC on original message

2022-06-23 Thread dr.j.r.walker--- via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 13:36 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> As others have said, there is no "BCC:" header to filter on. The
> whole
> point of BCC: is that the those recipients are not mentioned anywhere
> in the email headers...

It's about differences in design. Claws and Thunderbird have no
problems with receiving "BCC" emails because they keep separate emails
downloaded from different accounts. Anything downloaded from a server
for account X will get put in the inbox for account X irrespective of
what may be in the headers. Similarly, anything downloaded from a
server for account Y will get put in the inbox for account Y
irrespective of what may be in the headers.

It is my understanding that Evolution does not keep separate emails
from different accounts. It then uses the header information and filter
rules to distribute the emails to different folders (as desired).

It's different, and not ideal for me (with respect to receiving BCC
emails). Claws and Thunderbird have their own problems.


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Re: [Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions

2022-06-23 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 07:17 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> What do I do next so that these remain visible after Evolution
> refreshes the view?

Hi,
I do not know, I'd need to have an account with that provider for
testing.

> I'm not too keen to step out of the Debian repositories but
> will if there is no other way.

Sure, that's okay, I suggested the Flatpak just to test whether the
latest stable Evolution works better than your ancient.

You'd need to change the namespace there as well, but the files are
stored in the sandbox, under ~/.var/org.gnome.Evolution/ from the host
system.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Filter for emails where recipent was BCC on original message

2022-06-23 Thread Pete Biggs
On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 07:58 -0400, dr.j.r.walker--- via evolution-list
wrote:
> Thanks to all those who have offered suggestions.
> 
> I expect that I will be able to filter out some BCC emails based on
> origin.
> 
> It's not ideal for me, but, nonetheless, I'm fully aware that I'm using
> "free" software and I'm very grateful to all those that have
> contributed to Evolution's development.
> 
As others have said, there is no "BCC:" header to filter on. The whole
point of BCC: is that the those recipients are not mentioned anywhere
in the email headers.  Even if you are the recipient of it, you don't
get to see the BCC: address(es). And this is part of the email
standards, so is not something that is a deficiency of Evolution or any
other mail program.

I suppose, ultimately, you could filter on the fact that your address
is not listed in To: or CC:, but that would include mailing lists and
lots of spam.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Filter for emails where recipent was BCC on original message

2022-06-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 07:58 -0400, dr.j.r.walker--- via evolution-list
wrote:
> Thanks to all those who have offered suggestions.
> 
> I expect that I will be able to filter out some BCC emails based on
> origin.
> 
> It's not ideal for me, but, nonetheless, I'm fully aware that I'm
> using
> "free" software and I'm very grateful to all those that have
> contributed to Evolution's development.

It has nothing to do with Evo being free. No mail client can filter on
BCC because there is no such header in the received mail.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Filter for emails where recipent was BCC on original message

2022-06-23 Thread dr.j.r.walker--- via evolution-list
Thanks to all those who have offered suggestions.

I expect that I will be able to filter out some BCC emails based on
origin.

It's not ideal for me, but, nonetheless, I'm fully aware that I'm using
"free" software and I'm very grateful to all those that have
contributed to Evolution's development.

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Re: [Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions

2022-06-23 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Thu, 2022-06-23 at 08:20 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-06-22 at 20:39 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > They instructed me to edit the .source file and that appears to be
> > working.
> 
> Hi,
> that's nice, both you sorted it out and that they support Evolution.
> Bye,
> Milan
> 
> 
Alas, it is not fully resolved.  I set namespace=INBOX and
usenamespace=true.  Now, if I fight with it and refresh the top account
a couple of times, I get an arrow to expand the Inbox and can see the
folders.  But, after a while, the focus jumps to the Junk folder and
the Inbox subfolders and the arrow to expand them disappear.

What do I do next so that these remain visible after Evolution
refreshes the view?

I did check Debian Backports but that does not have a newer version of
Evolution.  I'm not too keen to step out of the Debian repositories but
will if there is no other way.

Thanks - John


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Re: [Evolution] Problem with IMAP subscriptions

2022-06-23 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-06-22 at 20:39 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> They instructed me to edit the .source file and that appears to be
> working.

Hi,
that's nice, both you sorted it out and that they support Evolution.
Bye,
Milan

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