Re: [Evolution] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 08:10 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 07:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Evolution is rendered useless for my needs.
> 
> Hi,
> it looks like it was not discussed here yet (or my search foo
> degraded). Please see:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/2039
> 
> Long story short: since 3.46.1, run from a terminal:
> 
>     gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.shell use-header-bar false
> 
> and then start Evolution.
> 
> > I've attached screenshots showing the new confusingly arranged
> > ambiguous symbols
> 
> By the way, your screenshots show that you've installed something
> what
> disables use of the header bars in the gtk3 apps. That was not what
> it
> was meant to look like. If you use some 3rd-party tool to modify the
> interface, then it's up to you (I recall it had been mentioned here,
> no
> need to repeat).
> 
> Also, I would not say the interface is entirely broken. That's not
> fair
> from you.
> 
> Bye,
> Milan
> 
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"gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.shell use-header-bar false
and then start Evolution"

Thank you Milan I have a real interface again. Evolution v3.46.1-1 
 
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Re: [Evolution] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 11:52 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> It's an off-topic question, but [...] I'm very interested...

I replied off-list.

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Re: [Evolution] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia  1.11.2022 o godz. 07:50:18 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze:
> 
> I noticed something similar for another app I used a lot. The app's name
> is "Meld". It is an irony of fate that mc's mailing list was also on a
> GNOME Foundation server, so I took another look at mc and found that
> fortunately mc offers a replacement for Melt.

It's an off-topic question, but what is that replacement for Meld that mc
offers? (does it work in text mode like mc?) I'm very interested...
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Re: [Evolution] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-11-01 at 07:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> Evolution is rendered useless for my needs.

Hi,
it looks like it was not discussed here yet (or my search foo
degraded). Please see:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/2039

Long story short: since 3.46.1, run from a terminal:

    gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.shell use-header-bar false

and then start Evolution.

> I've attached screenshots showing the new confusingly arranged
> ambiguous symbols

By the way, your screenshots show that you've installed something what
disables use of the header bars in the gtk3 apps. That was not what it
was meant to look like. If you use some 3rd-party tool to modify the
interface, then it's up to you (I recall it had been mentioned here, no
need to repeat).

Also, I would not say the interface is entirely broken. That's not fair
from you.

Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] After an update Evolution's user interface is entirely broken

2022-11-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi,

today Evolution on Arch Linux was upgraded from 3.44.4 to 3.46.1, due to
a dependency hell a downgrade became more or less impossible to
maintain. I have given up downgrading Evolution.

I've attached screenshots showing the new confusingly arranged ambiguous
symbols. Now evolution only works for me with searches and tooltip
descriptions. Why was the intuitive, self-explanatory interface that
allowed you to get things done in a split second replaced with a hidden
object game that now takes me minutes to do something that previously
took me seconds to do?

Evolution is rendered useless for my needs. I don't have the time to
play hidden object games. Are there any plans to fix this mess or do I
need to migrate to another MUA?

Also, you have to jog your mouse cursor from corner to corner to do
things that were previously side by side, and the design just wastes the
space of the screen. The colors of the theme were applied unbearably
too. I designed the theme in such a way that I see these really blue
tones instead of these more turquoise tones, because I'm very sensitive
to things like that.

What's the plan behind this?

I noticed something similar for another app I used a lot. The app's name
is "Meld". It is an irony of fate that mc's mailing list was also on a
GNOME Foundation server, so I took another look at mc and found that
fortunately mc offers a replacement for Melt. By the way, the mc mailing
list was migrated to an OSU OSL server. The subscribers of the old
mailing list had nothing to do, to use the new mailing list.

Regards,
Ralf
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