Re: [Evolution] My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 13:54 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote:
> I will definitely not go through this.

Hi,

it anyway doesn't work. I can't post to the discourse mailing list.

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-October/msg00209.html

I spend more than 1 hour to subscribe to a mailing list that doesn't
work.

Usually subscribing to a list takes a few minutes, sometimes just a few
seconds or a minute and after that it works without issues.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list
Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 13:29:00 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze:
> Even if we should be able to use this thingy as a mailing list, there
> will unlikely be a lot of new subscribers who are friends of mailing
> lists, hence new subscribers will probably not follow posting style
> etiquette (if this should be possible at all), let alone that Evolution
> Discourse subscribers that were using it way before we subscribe(ed),
> unlikely will care about those of us, who are in favour of mailing list
> style and etiquette.

I will definitely not go through this. I am not a very active user here
(although reading this list is a very interesting way of learning of
potential problems one may have with Evolution - to my luck I have none of
them, and the ones that I had were successfully resolved :)). If there will
be no real mailing list as a replacement, I will simply leave.
-- 
Regards,
   Jaroslaw Rafa
   r...@rafa.eu.org
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Re: [Evolution] My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 13:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> 18. I muted the bell icon. I've got no idea how to continue to
> subscribe
>     to a mailing list behaviour, let alone that I still would have to
>     change the GitHub mail account for Discourse to my Evolution
>     mailing list account.

Go to your Preferences, then click on Emails (on the left). Near the
bottom of the page is a tick-box which enables mailing list behaviour.

poc
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[Evolution] My first attempt to migrate to Discourse

2022-10-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi,

 1. I opened https://discourse.gnome.org/ with Waterfox.
 2. I clicked "Log In"
 3. I clicked "with GitHub"
 4. Evolution retrieved emails
 5. I copied the verification code to the GidHub device verification
 6. "GNOME Discourse by GNOME Infrastructure Automation Bot
wants to access your R-a-l-f account"
 7. I authorized gnomesysadmins
 8. Authorizing did redirect to https://discourse.gnome.org
 9. "Welcome!
Let's create your account"
10. I clicked "Create your account"
11. White text on a shadowed forum interface:
"Your first notification! Select it to begin.
 I'll read it later.
 Not your first time? Skip these tips"
12. I read the "Greetings!

Thanks for joining GNOME Discourse, and welcome!

I’m only a robot, but our friendly staff are also here to help if
you need to reach a person.

For safety reasons, we temporarily limit what new users can do.
You’ll gain new abilities (and badges) as we get to know you.

We believe in civilized community behavior at all times.

If you’d like to learn more, select below and bookmark this personal
message. If you do, there may be a :gift: in your future!"
13. I clicked the search icon and searched for
"applicati...@discourse.gnome.org"
14. The search returned "No results found."
15. I searched for "evolution" "in all topics and posts"
16. I selected the latest entry with the tags
"Applications" "evolution" "calendar"
17. I clicked the "evolution" tag
18. I muted the bell icon. I've got no idea how to continue to subscribe
to a mailing list behaviour, let alone that I still would have to
change the GitHub mail account for Discourse to my Evolution
mailing list account.
19. I should search my Evolution mailing list emails. IIRC somebody sent
a howto. Maybe I will do so, but not right now.

Even if we should be able to use this thingy as a mailing list, there
will unlikely be a lot of new subscribers who are friends of mailing
lists, hence new subscribers will probably not follow posting style
etiquette (if this should be possible at all), let alone that Evolution
Discourse subscribers that were using it way before we subscribe(ed),
unlikely will care about those of us, who are in favour of mailing list
style and etiquette.

This was my first attempt to migrate to Discourse. It failed, since the
forum interface isn't intuitive to use. The layout is a PITA, absolutely
nothing easily leads to a mailing list behaviour.

Regards,
Ralf
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