Re: [Evolution] Folder-specific Threaded option

2001-05-17 Thread Xavier Bestel

Err ... but state isn't saved. I have to do it by hand.
Sorry.

Xav

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Re: [Evolution] Folder-specific Threaded option

2001-05-17 Thread Not Zed

Well, dont use the feature then.  Use a vfolder, if thats what you want.

On 17 May 2001 13:20:32 +0200, Jens Lautenbacher wrote:
 
 [First of all, sorry for the long mail]
 
 Not Zed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On 16 May 2001 18:50:43 +0200, Jens Lautenbacher wrote:
   Also the UI for these Options is very strange, for Hide Read
   messages you have the menu entry, but there is no check mark when
   it's selected, to unselect you have to select Show all... and this
   state is folder local... UI from hell :-(
  
  No the ui is correct.  Hide read messages is not a state, its an action. 
  i.e. it just hides CURRENTLY read messages.  It doesn't keep hiding
  newly read messages.
 
 Oh come on, that's even worse. I have a folder with 1000 msg. I hide 990
 of them, then I read 5 of the remaining 10. Now on subsequent entering
 of the folder I have not a single feedback from UI that there are
 older read messages that are hidden. This _is_ UI from hell. 
 
 The problem is that you seem to store the attribute of being hidden on
 a per mail basis. But what a lot of people would like to see is a
 folder attribute that means: Don't show me read mails in this
 folder. All messages i read after entering such a folder will be
 marked read, and, after I come back, won't  be shown.
 
 The accumulative way you implemented seems to be a way to just move
 uninteresting older mails out of sight. But when I have a big
 folder, with a mix of a lot of read messages, some unread (aka new)
 messages and a real big bunch of hidden messages, I run into problems
 when I want to see such a hidden msq. I do a Show all, poff, all of
 them are there. But now how can I hide them again? Hide read will hide
 all of the read ones, which is not what I wanted.
 
 What makes more sense to me is a mix of attributes that belong to
 certain messages (like flag as important, flag as unimportant, or even
 levels of importance) and attributes that belong to the view of a
 folder (like do always show important messages, regardless of if they
 are read or not, do not show unimportant messages, and of course
 the most important do not show read messages or even better do not
 show read messages that have no descendants [in the sense of how a
 threading option would sort them] that are unread)
 
 What you call hiding is in fact a flagging as somehow unimportant
 plus the fact that the folder does't show those. But what you call
 show all is unfortunately a remove the unimportant flag. Instead
 it should be show all, even if they are flagged as unimportant. That
 way, on subsequent entries, the flag persists and I will (to come back
 to my example above) see again just 10 messages, with 5 of them marked
 as read (of course only if I have _not_ set the hypothetical folder option
 of hiding read mails).
  
 jtl




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Re: [Evolution] Folder-specific Threaded option

2001-05-17 Thread Dan Winship

 a mixture of imap and vfolders I never, ever use anything in 'local',
 and yet it is fully expanded every time Evolution opens.

By 1.0, the folder tree will definitely remember the state of
open/closed nodes between sessions. It may be possible to rearrange
things as well.

Note that you can also create shortcut bar panes, using small icons
(right click to select that), ordered however you want.

-- Dan

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Re: [Evolution] Folder-specific Threaded option

2001-05-16 Thread Jens Lautenbacher

Abe Fettig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 As far as I can tell, the View-Threaded option is currently global.
 Wouldn't it be better to set this on a folder-by-folder basis?  For
 example, I like to have the threaded view for mailing lists, but not for
 my inbox.
 
 Just a thought. Evolution looks great!

I would like that, too. Unfortunately there's no way currently to set
certain Options on a per folder basis. Some stuff (like Hide Read messages)
seems to work on a per folder basis, other stuff doesn't. 

Also the UI for these Options is very strange, for Hide Read
messages you have the menu entry, but there is no check mark when
it's selected, to unselect you have to select Show all... and this
state is folder local... UI from hell :-(

I think one would want to set values for folders in a dedicated
dialog, and these menue entries  will become again what they have
been, just commands that don't set a persistant status. Also they
should be greyed out (if a folder has status Show all, there's no
need to have the menu entry there selectable)

There are other things I'd like to set on a per folder basis:

* The default To: address when calling compose from inside a folder
* Threaded or not
* Hide Read or not

and a whole bunch of other options... for reference, just look at
gnus' options that can be set on groups, remove about 2/3 of them and
implement the remaining zillions of them :-)


jtl

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