Quick question re backup

2003-03-26 Thread Rob Hackney


Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000:
If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft
exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in 
backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup
the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data
directory?
I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's
but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble
getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression
enabled (otherwise software).  
I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc
but cannot find a definitive answer on this.
Thanks
Support Analyst
TKC Group Ltd
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RE: Quick question re backup

2003-03-26 Thread Martin Blackstone
How big are the stores? 


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Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000:
If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft
exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up
program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program
files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory?
I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but
I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all
our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled
(otherwise software).  
I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but
cannot find a definitive answer on this.
Thanks
Support Analyst
TKC Group Ltd
Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est
Keynsham
BS31 1TZ
UK
0117 916 1320


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RE: Quick question re backup

2003-03-26 Thread Mellott, Bill
Along with martin I might ask...

1.) Umm What is your total Drive capacity?
2.) Of the total capacity how much is in use?
3.) IF say IN USE is say =/less then 40/80GB I would think it should fit.
Note: Remember compression is a funny thing and often is not going to work
the way you may think...i.e. somethings just dont compress..kinda
4.) have you worked with your block size in BE for the tape drive..etc..Ive
found that can make a big diff in performance..etc...
5.) What is and is not backing up...I think maybe some more details might
help others reading your post here.
6.) Is the box only exchange or is it say file and rpint too.???


2 cents

bill
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:58 AM
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Subject: RE: Quick question re backup


How big are the stores? 


-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions



Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000:
If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft
exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up
program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program
files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory?
I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but
I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all
our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled
(otherwise software).  
I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but
cannot find a definitive answer on this.
Thanks
Support Analyst
TKC Group Ltd
Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est
Keynsham
BS31 1TZ
UK
0117 916 1320


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RE: Quick question re backup

2003-03-26 Thread Ed Crowley
Do not back up M: as it can corrupt the store.

Do not back up exchsrvr\*data directories as all the data those
directories is transient or the files are open.  The only exception is
exchsrvr\kmsdata (if you use it), which you can only back up
successfully if you shut down the Key Management Server service first.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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Subject: Quick question re backup




Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000:
If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft
exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in 
backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup
the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data
directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't
doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having
trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware
compression enabled (otherwise software).  
I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc
but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC
Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320


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RE: Quick question re backup

2003-03-26 Thread Neil Hobson

I thought Exchange 2000 supported online backup of the KMS.

Neil

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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 26 March 2003 15:25
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Conversation: Quick question re backup
Subject: RE: Quick question re backup


Do not back up M: as it can corrupt the store.

Do not back up exchsrvr\*data directories as all the data those
directories is transient or the files are open.  The only exception is
exchsrvr\kmsdata (if you use it), which you can only back up
successfully if you shut down the Key Management Server service first.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hackney
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Quick question re backup




Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000:
If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft
exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in 
backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup
the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data
directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't
doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having
trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware
compression enabled (otherwise software).  
I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc
but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC
Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320


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RE: Quick question re backup

2003-03-26 Thread Rob Hackney
Thanks Ed  - that answers my question

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 March 2003 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick question re backup


Do not back up M: as it can corrupt the store.

Do not back up exchsrvr\*data directories as all the data those
directories is transient or the files are open.  The only exception is
exchsrvr\kmsdata (if you use it), which you can only back up
successfully if you shut down the Key Management Server service first.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hackney
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Quick question re backup




Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000:
If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft
exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in 
backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup
the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data
directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't
doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having
trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware
compression enabled (otherwise software).  
I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc
but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC
Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320


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