RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
so then..and Im sure Im a bit off... but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks) if I gave each user say 100MB mail box... so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space taken in too account for the example) now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB... Now here are some Q's 1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP exch? 2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB. if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats new 3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and RECEIVE potential 4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) = 300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD space of 15GB and stop exchange??? thanks bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num (which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a user is approaching limits. While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR should be of concern. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Exch55sp4 + postsp4 If you have the Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR about receiving user So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal behavior Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of you more experienced with this beast..Think... anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3? it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was over quote..etc... thanks bill _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone. 2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it? 3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all that important. 4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the system. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message so then..and Im sure Im a bit off... but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks) if I gave each user say 100MB mail box... so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space taken in too account for the example) now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB... Now here are some Q's 1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP exch? 2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB. if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats new 3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and RECEIVE potential 4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) = 300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD space of 15GB and stop exchange??? thanks bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num (which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a user is approaching limits. While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR should be of concern. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Exch55sp4 + postsp4 If you have the Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR about receiving user So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal behavior Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of you more experienced with this beast..Think... anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3? it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was over quote..etc... thanks bill _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
thanks! chris bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message 1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone. 2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it? 3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all that important. 4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the system. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message so then..and Im sure Im a bit off... but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks) if I gave each user say 100MB mail box... so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space taken in too account for the example) now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB... Now here are some Q's 1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP exch? 2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB. if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats new 3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and RECEIVE potential 4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) = 300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD space of 15GB and stop exchange??? thanks bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num (which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a user is approaching limits. While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR should be of concern. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Exch55sp4 + postsp4 If you have the Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR about receiving user So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal behavior Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of you more experienced with this beast..Think... anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3? it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was over quote..etc... thanks bill _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
P.S. Then why use the Send and Recieve Prohibit at all? why would one use it...??? bill -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message thanks! chris bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message 1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone. 2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it? 3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all that important. 4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the system. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message so then..and Im sure Im a bit off... but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks) if I gave each user say 100MB mail box... so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space taken in too account for the example) now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB... Now here are some Q's 1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP exch? 2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB. if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats new 3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and RECEIVE potential 4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) = 300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD space of 15GB and stop exchange??? thanks bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num (which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a user is approaching limits. While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR should be of concern. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Exch55sp4 + postsp4 If you have the Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR about receiving user So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal behavior Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of you more experienced with this beast..Think... anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3? it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was over quote..etc... thanks bill _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List
RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
I use it to stop mail loops and keep departments from using a 'receive only' mailbox as a filing cabinet. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:08 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message P.S. Then why use the Send and Recieve Prohibit at all? why would one use it...??? bill -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message thanks! chris bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message 1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone. 2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it? 3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all that important. 4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the system. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message so then..and Im sure Im a bit off... but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks) if I gave each user say 100MB mail box... so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space taken in too account for the example) now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB... Now here are some Q's 1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP exch? 2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB. if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats new 3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and RECEIVE potential 4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) = 300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD space of 15GB and stop exchange??? thanks bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num (which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a user is approaching limits. While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR should be of concern. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Exch55sp4 + postsp4 If you have the Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR about receiving user So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal behavior Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of you more experienced with this beast..Think... anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3? it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was over quote..etc... thanks bill _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
ok I get the second idea...but Im not clear on the mail loop -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I use it to stop mail loops and keep departments from using a 'receive only' mailbox as a filing cabinet. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:08 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message P.S. Then why use the Send and Recieve Prohibit at all? why would one use it...??? bill -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message thanks! chris bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message 1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone. 2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it? 3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all that important. 4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the system. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message so then..and Im sure Im a bit off... but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks) if I gave each user say 100MB mail box... so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space taken in too account for the example) now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB... Now here are some Q's 1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP exch? 2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB. if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats new 3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and RECEIVE potential 4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) = 300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD space of 15GB and stop exchange??? thanks bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num (which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a user is approaching limits. While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR should be of concern. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Exch55sp4 + postsp4 If you have the Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR about receiving user So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal behavior Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of you more experienced with this beast..Think... anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3? it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was over quote..etc... thanks bill _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web
RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
With a mail loop, the over the limit message comes from a null sender and thus should stop the loop. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:07 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message ok I get the second idea...but Im not clear on the mail loop -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I use it to stop mail loops and keep departments from using a 'receive only' mailbox as a filing cabinet. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:08 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message P.S. Then why use the Send and Recieve Prohibit at all? why would one use it...??? bill -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message thanks! chris bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message 1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone. 2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it? 3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all that important. 4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the system. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message so then..and Im sure Im a bit off... but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks) if I gave each user say 100MB mail box... so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space taken in too account for the example) now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB... Now here are some Q's 1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP exch? 2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB. if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats new 3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and RECEIVE potential 4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) = 300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD space of 15GB and stop exchange??? thanks bill -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num (which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a user is approaching limits. While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR should be of concern. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message Exch55sp4 + postsp4 If you have the Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR about receiving user So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal behavior Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of you more experienced with this beast..Think... anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3? it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was over quote..etc... thanks bill _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource
